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etoile noir
4thMay2005, 23:05
maybe this explains why certain people who marry Kuwaits prefer to remain here, and even call us "third world citizens" with a "superiority complex" :mad:

Lawmakers Block Women From Voting in Kuwait By HASSAN M. FATTAH - NY Times (http://http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/04/international/middleeast/04kuwait.html?th&emc=th)


DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, May 3 - Conservative lawmakers in Kuwait's Parliament on Tuesday created a constitutional roadblock that effectively killed a measure that would have allowed women to participate in city council elections for the first time. Hours later, the elections were called for June 2.

The action eliminates any chance that women will be able to take part in elections for another four years, when city council seats are again up for grabs.

The legislation initially was passed by Kuwait's 64-member National Assembly on April 19, but in accordance with Kuwaiti law faced a second vote for ratification on Monday. But Parliament ended in deadlock on Monday when 29 members abstained and only 29 voted for it, leaving the legislation just shy of the 33 votes needed.

Efforts to resume voting on the measure on Tuesday failed when opponents argued that it had already been rejected and that any new vote would therefore be unconstitutional. In a surprise move, the prime minister, Sheik Sabah al-Jaber al-Sabah, shelved the issue for two more weeks. Because the elections were called under the existing law, women are barred from participating in the coming municipal elections even if the measure ultimately passes.

While the city council holds little political significance, winning the right for women to run for office there was seen as a first step in gaining the right to run for Parliament.

The prime minister, who is a descendant of the ruling Sabah family, had promised in the past to push through full political rights for women during the current parliamentary term, which ends in June. He said he would appoint a female cabinet minister once women get suffrage.

Women's participation in politics has been a divisive issue in Kuwait for years, and in recent months has grown heated as advocates for women, backed by international pressure, appeared to make strides. Bahrain, Qatar and Oman have all held elections in recent years, and all have allowed women to vote.

Kuwait's elected Parliament exercises a great deal of control over the government. But while the Kuwaiti Constitution gives equal rights to men and women, the country's election law bars women, along with men in the police and military, from voting. That limits the voting base to only 15 percent of the total population of 950,000 Kuwaitis.

Women would essentially double that base, and redraw the country's political map in the process. But conservative and tribally backed members of Parliament say Islam and Kuwaiti custom bar women from holding that much power.

"The parliaments of most other Muslim countries don't have as much power as we do," said Waleed al-Tabtabae, head of Parliament's human rights committee and a fervent opponent of the measure. "We have no problem with women voting, but we do have a problem with women standing for elections. Islam dictates that the head of the nation must be a man, and we are technically the head of the nation here."

Numerous Kuwaiti women hold high government posts, including the ambassador to the United Nations, Nabeela Abdulla al-Mulla.

Advocates for women contend that their opponents are simply trying to keep their seats. For many lawmakers, the difference between winning and losing can come down to a few votes, and a strong women's vote would threaten the existing order.

PERICLES
4thMay2005, 23:17
Is this the ADVANCE & DEVELOPED country that Ms. Stephanie Aboud was talking about?

etoile noir
4thMay2005, 23:26
oh! but it is very advanced and developed - as long as you're male, moslem and kuwaiti. for the rest, well the rest don't really count do they .....

malsey
4thMay2005, 23:49
eq issa forsi la jghaddi naqra zmien iehor johoda sa hemm. u ma tibqax tghid malta 3 world country, ghax aqta kemm tigi tigri lura. jekk ovvjaemnt ihalluwa.

patriaomuerte
4thMay2005, 23:50
Is this the ADVANCE & DEVELOPED country that Ms. Stephanie Aboud was talking about?

I would like to see mrs. abboud trying to protest in this country saying .... imma msieken in nisa haqqhom il-vot ta? Ghax malta pajjiz tat 3 dinja .... u n-nisa hemm ghandhom il-vot.

malsey
4thMay2005, 23:55
jew tghid jiena nibza mill musulmani ghax lit tifel kristjan tieghi mhux se jitrattawh tajjeb. ibatu bil bibbja fidu hemm u tara kif jispicca f pajjiz zviluppat skont hi high class



I would like to see mrs. abboud trying to protest in this country saying .... imma msieken in nisa haqqhom il-vot ta? Ghax malta pajjiz tat 3 dinja .... u n-nisa hemm ghandhom il-vot.

patriaomuerte
5thMay2005, 00:15
jew tghid jiena nibza mill musulmani ghax lit tifel kristjan tieghi mhux se jitrattawh tajjeb. ibatu bil bibbja fidu hemm u tara kif jispicca f pajjiz zviluppat skont hi high class

Ha nghidlek maisley, mrs abboud jrid ihossha furtunata li kellha tifel u m hux tifla. Ghax jekk xi darba jfettila tmur tara il-genituri tar ragel taggha hi biss tbghati u m hux it tfal.

Meta jien kont nistudja l gharbi, go l iskola tal-moskeja. Kien hemm 2 nisa li zzewgu gharbi.

Darba minnhom kien hemm il-geniutri tar ragel ta wahda minnhom u dahlu gol klassi biex jaraw min hemm qed jitghallem l gharbi mal mara ta binhom. imnalla is-sir kien jaf jitkellem bl-gharbi sew ghax kieku nahseb panic kien iqum.

Niftakar dahlu gol kamra jitawlu u jaraw min hemm. Qisu gew ghal parents day tat tifel li ghandu 13 il-sena.

Kieku jien kont minfloka kont ninkiser wahda kbira u qas nerga nersaq gol klassi. Dik ir-rispett li jkollhom nisa li jizzewgu ma gharab. qas huma fdati!

Gladiator
6thMay2005, 20:20
Ha nghidlek maisley, mrs abboud jrid ihossha furtunata li kellha tifel u m hux tifla. Ghax jekk xi darba jfettila tmur tara il-genituri tar ragel taggha hi biss tbghati u m hux it tfal.

Meta jien kont nistudja l gharbi, go l iskola tal-moskeja. Kien hemm 2 nisa li zzewgu gharbi.

Darba minnhom kien hemm il-geniutri tar ragel ta wahda minnhom u dahlu gol klassi biex jaraw min hemm qed jitghallem l gharbi mal mara ta binhom. imnalla is-sir kien jaf jitkellem bl-gharbi sew ghax kieku nahseb panic kien iqum.

Niftakar dahlu gol kamra jitawlu u jaraw min hemm. Qisu gew ghal parents day tat tifel li ghandu 13 il-sena.

Kieku jien kont minfloka kont ninkiser wahda kbira u qas nerga nersaq gol klassi. Dik ir-rispett li jkollhom nisa li jizzewgu ma gharab. qas huma fdati!

Dan meta kien Lol. Ma knotx naf l-int Gharbi? Dan f'Malta kont?

patriaomuerte
7thMay2005, 00:47
Dan meta kien Lol. Ma knotx naf l-int Gharbi? Dan f'Malta kont?

heheh le x gharbi, jien malti pur ... imma xi 3 snin ilu iddecidejt nitghallem lingwa ohra u ghidt ha nitghallem l gharbi.

U f malta jghatu lessons ta l gharbi b xejn. Kull ma trid tixtri huwa ktieb li jiswa LM2 u l biqja kollox b xejn.