Access to Valletta

[etoile noir]

All people who work or live in Valletta, or merely visit, are reminded that controlled vehicular access [CVA] will come into force on 01 May 2007.

In a nutshell, if you work in valletta and enter & park your car, you will pay a maximum of LM2.80 daily. The actual tariffs are as follows:

0-30 mins Free
Additional 30 mins 35c (€0.82c)
Following the first hour 35c (€0.82c) per hour or part thereof
Max. charge (per day) Lm2.80c (€6.52c)
Sundays and Public Holidays - free.

Entrance and exit points, together with payment methods, exemptions and other useful information can be found here (http://www.cva.gov.mt/index.asp).

[Marco Polo]

in a nutshell etoile you are being told to use the park and ride. when you get all comfy using that (which is too small to cater for demand), they will then charge for that too.

screwing vlt even more.

[etoile noir]

that's the way you see it. frankly i dont think mdina is screwed at all and its a pedestrian zone.

valletta needs to get rid of those cars,trucks and monstrous vehicles. the sooner the better. what is screwed up is the amount of cars they're allowing into valletta, and the exemptions being granted - starting with the MP's who will naturally keep using their major pollutant cars, driver and all, when it is them who are the worst offenders.

wait for summer ..... then you can feast your eyes on them, spending hours in some ministerial office whilst the driver sits in the car, engine on, so the minister comes back to air conditioned comfort ..... whilst the rest of us breath his toxic fumes.

[Marco Polo]

that's the way you see it. frankly i dont think mdina is screwed at all and its a pedestrian zone.

valletta needs to get rid of those cars,trucks and monstrous vehicles. the sooner the better. what is screwed up is the amount of cars they're allowing into valletta, and the exemptions being granted - starting with the MP's who will naturally keep using their major pollutant cars, driver and all, when it is them who are the worst offenders.

wait for summer ..... then you can feast your eyes on them, spending hours in some ministerial office whilst the driver sits in the car, engine on, so the minister comes back to air conditioned comfort ..... whilst the rest of us breath his toxic fumes.

mdina is not valletta though. what i am against is inadequate provisions for drivers. as we speak the mcp car park and park and ride can barely deal with demand. you wouldnt know that as you use neither.

[shadow cup]

mdina is not valletta though. what i am against is inadequate provisions for drivers. as we speak the mcp car park and park and ride can barely deal with demand. you wouldnt know that as you use neither.

They should charge Lm 0.10 per person per trip.

I would pay it. Why? Because it saves me just as much as it would have cost me seeking a parking.

And that is what my whole philosophy on transportation is based upon. Its a shame that its already been done (yet not embraced). Makes me feel redundant. :c|

[Ulfur Engil]

I am not really sure how feaible this idea is in application to commuting to Valletta, but as far as my commuting is concerned, I avoid using an automobile every chance I get.Not only is petrol unnecessarily expensive, I also lose my patience with other motorists.

[Crow]

so how do u travel?

[ASTREAUS]

My dears, they are doing all this to preserve our city.
Please give time a chance.

[etoile noir]

My dears, they are doing all this to preserve our city.
Please give time a chance.
granted. and i was the first to say that, however i'll also be the first to declare malta the most unsafe place for riding a bicycle.

have you seen those mysterious "bike lanes" on the coast road? i sometimes wonder what the heck i'm supposed to do with my bike when the lane suddenly ends. carry it perhaps :confused:

[Animus]

have you seen those mysterious "bike lanes" on the coast road? i sometimes wonder what the heck i'm supposed to do with my bike when the lane suddenly ends. carry it perhaps :confused:


Bike lanes are the same along the Zebbug bypass, they end abruptly in the middle of nowhere with cars zooming past you.
I was driving along a main road recently, not sure if it was the road that leads to mgarr from mosta as this was a few weeks ago. Anyway, wherever it was, the pavement, along the entire road, had a birght yellow stripe right down the middle, the side along the road for bikes and the other side (along the wall) for pedestrians....who have to walk (almost) in single file ... just in cyclist comes by and hits you with his bike.
If there wasn't sufficient space for a PROPER bike lane it just shouldn't have been done. Squeezing one in just shows how things are done in Malta .... in a hurry to gain votes for 'speedy' work and then have the details planned later, once everything is finished. Genius! :mad:

[shadow cup]

The bicycle lanes were inserted with the same logic as the "pavement" was designed under the tunnels. There is technically enough pavement to caaaarefully hug the wall and inch your way across but you'd probably be safer just running up the middle of the road screaming your head off. ;cP

Also the same logic that they used in thoughtfully creating the stairway down to the mouth of the tunnel of Regional road in the St Venera area.

Not only is it a death trap for cats but it also lacks any other purpose... right at the mouth of the tunnel... cross at your own risk... 9_9;;;

[Eurodip]

granted. and i was the first to say that, however i'll also be the first to declare malta the most unsafe place for riding a bicycle.

have you seen those mysterious "bike lanes" on the coast road? i sometimes wonder what the heck i'm supposed to do with my bike when the lane suddenly ends. carry it perhaps :confused:\

Tsk, tsk, Letty! The bike lane doesn't end, it enters a spacetime warp! You are instantly transported to your desired destination, bike and all, without having to pedal. All hail the great Maltese engineering genius!

[ASTREAUS]

As long as you wear trousers im more than sure that you be safe.

[etoile noir]

Tsk, tsk, Letty! The bike lane doesn't end, it enters a spacetime warp! You are instantly transported to your desired destination, bike and all, without having to pedal. All hail the great Maltese engineering genius!
gawddamm! that's a brilliant excuse for when i stop and chat and arrive home 2 hours late - a space timewarp :D
you been watching far too many "X files" young man :eek:

[Eurodip]

gawddamm! that's a brilliant excuse for when i stop and chat and arrive home 2 hours late - a space timewarp :D
you been watching far too many "X files" young man :eek:

No way. I've never seen a single episode of Star Trek, I've never read any of Frank Herbert's books, and I've never looked through a telescope. And I'm proud of it.

Imma jien lil Gonzi nhobbu. Jaghtik bike lane ta' 700 metru, u kacca fir-rebbiegha. Jaghmillek nature reserve, u magenbha jibni hotel complex. Jaghmillek il-park and ride, u jibnilek triq tasal sa hdejn il-boathouses illegali. Il-Yin u l-Yang. Eros u Thanatos. Armonija totali.


[Mr Dallyard, I'm talking drivel again!]

[Ulfur Engil]

so how do u travel?


Luckily, I am able to use my bicycle to commute to and from work. When I move back to the UK, I hope to find a place where I can continue doing so.

[Ulfur Engil]

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Tsk, tsk, Letty! The bike lane doesn't end, it enters a spacetime warp! You are instantly transported to your desired destination, bike and all, without having to pedal. All hail the great Maltese engineering genius!


Can we use that same timewarp to deport people, perhaps? :D

[etoile noir]

Editorial - Times (http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=259998)

Leading by example

One best leads by example, especially if one happens to be a representative of the people. Alas, that does not seem to be happening in the Valletta traffic entry and parking system that comes into force tomorrow.

There has been general agreement that something had to be done to control the traffic flow into the capital and the multitude of vehicles that could be seen parked there day in, day out during weekdays. This parking problem was exacerbated when precious parking space was taken over by "reserved" lots, a good many of them for "official" government cars. The result was parking on pavements, at times blocking entrance/exits to private residences. Not to mention the damage that such practice caused, even to national monuments.

Some statistics should demonstrate the extent of the problem. A staggering 34,500 people employed in Valletta and Floriana use their own cars to go to work and over 20,300 vehicles drive into the city daily. As a result, the 3,000 or so parking spaces in Valletta are occupied by 8 a.m. and remain so until 5 p.m. An estimated 110,000 trips are made to the capital daily during the rush hours. Urban Development Minister Jesmond Mugliett said last August that about 950 parking spaces would no longer be made available in Valletta and Floriana once the park and ride system was launched.

The park and ride system seems to be working well and there was a general feeling that the Valletta traffic entry system would be just as successful provided business is not adversely affected.
One augurs all will be well, but announcements made so far, and requests conveyed in Parliament, risk leading to a situation where public cooperation may not be as widespread as it should. And for good reason too.

Given that the new Valletta traffic management system has been so long in coming, the least one would have expected was that, once launched, all measures would have been well thought out and planned to the minutest detail. It does not seem to have been the case: Roads were blocked off - to make them pedestrianised areas, which is a good thing - with residents complaining they had not been informed in advance; the list of those exempt from the new system could get longer and a decision on whether reserved parking for government vehicles would remain has yet to be announced.

The Valletta local council must insist that the powers that be, and that includes the council itself, have to lead by example. Which means there should be no reserved parking for government vehicles, and that includes ministerial cars. After all, ministers have drivers and so they can be dropped off at their office and collected when they need to move about.
This applies too to the Prime Minister, the Archbishop, the Gozo Bishop, the Chief Justice, the Leader of the Opposition, parliamentary secretaries and visiting foreign dignitaries, although in this last case special arrangements can and should be made, especially for security reasons.
The President's car is usually parked inside the Palace and, therefore, there should be no problems here.

Why should members of Parliament be exempt too? The House usually meets after 6 p.m. and MPs' reserved parking can, therefore, be retained.
The request by MEPs, former MPs and parliamentary staff to be exempt from the parking scheme should be immediately turned down. Indeed, the Speaker of the House ought to have refused to convey such requests. On the contrary, Mr Speaker should have called on the people's representatives to set an example

[Marco Polo]

Editorial - Times (http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=259998)

Leading by example

One best leads by example, especially if one happens to be a representative of the people. Alas, that does not seem to be happening in the Valletta traffic entry and parking system that comes into force tomorrow.

There has been general agreement that something had to be done to control the traffic flow into the capital and the multitude of vehicles that could be seen parked there day in, day out during weekdays. This parking problem was exacerbated when precious parking space was taken over by "reserved" lots, a good many of them for "official" government cars. The result was parking on pavements, at times blocking entrance/exits to private residences. Not to mention the damage that such practice caused, even to national monuments.

Some statistics should demonstrate the extent of the problem. A staggering 34,500 people employed in Valletta and Floriana use their own cars to go to work and over 20,300 vehicles drive into the city daily. As a result, the 3,000 or so parking spaces in Valletta are occupied by 8 a.m. and remain so until 5 p.m. An estimated 110,000 trips are made to the capital daily during the rush hours. Urban Development Minister Jesmond Mugliett said last August that about 950 parking spaces would no longer be made available in Valletta and Floriana once the park and ride system was launched.

The park and ride system seems to be working well and there was a general feeling that the Valletta traffic entry system would be just as successful provided business is not adversely affected.
One augurs all will be well, but announcements made so far, and requests conveyed in Parliament, risk leading to a situation where public cooperation may not be as widespread as it should. And for good reason too.

Given that the new Valletta traffic management system has been so long in coming, the least one would have expected was that, once launched, all measures would have been well thought out and planned to the minutest detail. It does not seem to have been the case: Roads were blocked off - to make them pedestrianised areas, which is a good thing - with residents complaining they had not been informed in advance; the list of those exempt from the new system could get longer and a decision on whether reserved parking for government vehicles would remain has yet to be announced.

The Valletta local council must insist that the powers that be, and that includes the council itself, have to lead by example. Which means there should be no reserved parking for government vehicles, and that includes ministerial cars. After all, ministers have drivers and so they can be dropped off at their office and collected when they need to move about.
This applies too to the Prime Minister, the Archbishop, the Gozo Bishop, the Chief Justice, the Leader of the Opposition, parliamentary secretaries and visiting foreign dignitaries, although in this last case special arrangements can and should be made, especially for security reasons.
The President's car is usually parked inside the Palace and, therefore, there should be no problems here.

Why should members of Parliament be exempt too? The House usually meets after 6 p.m. and MPs' reserved parking can, therefore, be retained.
The request by MEPs, former MPs and parliamentary staff to be exempt from the parking scheme should be immediately turned down. Indeed, the Speaker of the House ought to have refused to convey such requests. On the contrary, Mr Speaker should have called on the people's representatives to set an example

its all bullshit as they wont. as i have said before, the alternatives are not adequate. when i last visited valletta both park and ride and mcp were full as usual so where are people going to park?

is euro cash involved in any way?