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ogenoct
7thMarch2007, 12:06
WHY I AM A MEMBER OF THE NPD

by Constantin von Hoffmeister


The NPD (National Democratic Party of Germany) is the only progressive party in Germany. It is anti-capitalist and socialist. It rejects Marxist mumbo-jumbo but positively accepts the good aspects of the German Democratic Republic (GDR). The former manager of the NPD in Saxony, Juergen Schoen, even exclaimed (in 1998) that "the GDR was the better Germany!" (as opposed to the degenerate Federal Republic of Germany)

While the NPD does distance itself from historical National Socialism, virtually all of its organs routinely praise the Fuehrer and various aspects of his regime (some of which are worth praising). This, of course, is not the official position of the NPD. After all, it also embraces the different ideas espoused by National Revolutionaries who were always opposed to Hitler's regime. The NPD tries to incorporate all aspects of German nationalism, including National Socialism. Even Udo Voigt (the head of the party) said so in an interview with the national conservative newspaper JUNGE FREIHEIT (Young Freedom).

The NPD is not only looking to the past for inspiration, but also towards a future that might be the product of a new theory, incorporating both elements from the right (nationalism) and left (anti-imperialism and socialism). The NPD is following the philosophy of the Third Way. Its newspaper, DEUTSCHE STIMME (German Voice), shows that it does not shy away from fundamental criticism of various policies the Third Reich pursued (for example, several articles favorably review the achievements of such illustrous enemies of NS as National Bolshevik Ernst Niekisch and Revolutionary National Socialist Otto Strasser). The NPD is definitely not a "neo-Nazi" party. On the contrary, it is truly national revolutionary in both spirit and action.

Reinhold Oberlercher, an ex-Red (famous theoretician of the 1968 student revolt) became a member of the NPD. Oberlercher calls himself a "National Marxist." He views the Bolshevik Revolution as an Asiatic counterrevolution. Another great German nationalist theoretician is Dr. Michael Nier. He used to be a member of the SED (Socialist Unity Party) and a professor for dialectical and historical materialism at the Humboldt University in East Berlin. After the collapse of the GDR, he became a member of the NPD and tried to establish a National Bolshevik wing of the party. He was sort of successful in the beginning as the party actually tried to establish contact with the Chinese and North Korean leadership. However, reactionaries in the party crushed the National Bolshevik wing. Disappointed, Nier left the party. He still supports the NPD, though, as he views it as the only real oppositional party in Germany.

The NPD is the only party in Germany that openly advocates race realism. The DEUTSCHE STIMME often publishes articles on race theory. For example, in a recent article, it highlighted the Nordic/Germanic roots of Ancient Rome (citing the well-known racial scientist Hans F. K. Guenther).

The NPD espouses not only a nationalist ideology but also a pan-European one. It actively collaborates with nationalist and racialist organizations in Europe and the rest of the White world. The NPD wants to establish close relationships with nationalist parties in Russia. This is an extremely positive development as it cements the eternal brotherhood of Germany and Russia. The famous nationalist folk singer and member of the NPD Frank Rennicke gave two concerts in Russia (Moscow and Leningrad). Both were a smashing success, and Rennicke spent hours signing autographs for Russian fans. Also, the leader of the Russian nationalist organization PAMYAT gave a rousing speech at the DEUTSCHE STIMME Press Fest in 2004.

Unfortunately, a lot of NPD members are quite reactionary in that they stubbornly demand that Germany regain its territory according to the borders of 1937. This is a completely ridiculous demand, of course, and will never happen. I often wonder what the point in such a demand is. While Berlin is swamped with Turks and other non-desirables, and the German population is committing suicide, all these reactionaries can do is demand tiny strips of land that mean nothing in the coming Imperivm Evropa (since borders will become increasingly transparent).

For its logo, the NPD uses the German imperial colors black, white and red. Of course, these three colors are also the three ancient Aryan colors. Without the NPD, Germany has no chance of awakening from its current slumber of death. Without an awake Germany (the heart of Europe), Europe has no chance of regaining its former dignity and might.


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/fritzmaster18/20060413175918NPD.jpg

Marco Polo
7thMarch2007, 13:23
better than that commie crap. well done!

ogenoct
7thMarch2007, 13:29
Here is a picture (taken in central Moscow in January of this year) of me (on the right), an old Communist (on the left) and the leader of the National Bolshevik Front of Russia (in the middle):

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/fritzmaster18/00059e0c.jpg

Constantin

Marco Polo
7thMarch2007, 15:04
Here is a picture (taken in central Moscow in January of this year) of me (on the right), an old Communist (on the left) and the leader of the National Bolshevik Front of Russia (in the middle):

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/fritzmaster18/00059e0c.jpg

Constantin

far better than a hammer and sickle but take the cigarette out and have a shave next time so you look more presentable. buy a nice suit and tie.

Gladiator
7thMarch2007, 18:23
Great news Cons. Keep the good work up. People of all Aryan nations of Europe, no matter what their political persuasion is, will eventually unite and regain their European identity and respect.

May that day is near.

etoile noir
7thMarch2007, 20:02
far better than a hammer and sickle but take the cigarette out and have a shave next time so you look more presentable. buy a nice suit and tie.
no cigarette, shave and get a suit and tie??? what is this? some kinda job interview for the unitiated? get real marco!

you're looking good constantin. oh and btw, great work with the npd. good to see some real activists around.

Marco Polo
7thMarch2007, 20:54
no cigarette, shave and get a suit and tie??? what is this? some kinda job interview for the unitiated? get real marco!

you're looking good constantin. oh and btw, great work with the npd. good to see some real activists around.

he looks like a drunken lout and you know it. you are just reciprocating the ass kissing.

a suit would do wonders.

etoile noir
7thMarch2007, 21:55
if we had even 5 constantin's here - minus suit and plus cigarette and unshaved - we could work wonders. and you know it.

dont need no ass kissing and dont need to kiss ass either.

Marco Polo
7thMarch2007, 22:50
if we had even 5 constantin's here - minus suit and plus cigarette and unshaved - we could work wonders. and you know it.

dont need no ass kissing and dont need to kiss ass either.

not if they go around looking like that.

we need people who believe the philosophy but also understand the real world of twerps in suits that are clean shaven, dont smoke and dont look like they are about to pass out of vodka overdose.

we need people that the sheeple can relate to and understand but also have a lion heart and are not afraid of getting their hands dirty doing WORK, real work.

we dont need political whores whose only interest is their bank balance but neither do we need people who live in space when talking to common people.

fimt gahana? :D

Marco Polo
7thMarch2007, 22:52
constantin, no offence and i say so in your best interest but stand up straight, take a shave, chuck the cigarette, throw the vodka and wear a suit.

also come down to earth.

maybe you can get elected with the NPD instead of cluttering europes pavements with the commie wackos.

etoile noir
8thMarch2007, 00:47
ye right. then he can go and join the ranks of the beatus and the martinus. ajmaaa. gahan anyone??

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 01:13
ye right. then he can go and join the ranks of the beatus and the martinus. ajmaaa. gahan anyone??

so you think that the above appearance is suitable? it may be a casual pic but for someone that likes to expose himself as much as constantin does he should take care of his image more.

paris hilton can afford to portray herself as a whore, hilary clinton cant.

same goes for norman. a comment i heard the other day about norman was 'ara kif spicca'. he looked like constantin does here. he too doesnt seem to realise the problem in appearance.

would you go around looking like a drunken slob and post such pics on the net? i would be ashamed of them. one of the principal reasons i do not show myself publically is my weakness in maltese and its bad presentation. i make a poor political figure in malta so i stick to what i am good at.

naturaly we still cant self criticise.

the twin dicks of anr go to the other extreme and look ridiculous. salmone is a bit more like what is needed by all. griffin does it in the uk, he wears a suit and has the charisma.

shadow cup
8thMarch2007, 07:45
I think that the suit is a somewhat overrated garment... For as long as the clothing conveys the attitude that one wishes to convey and has style 'potential' then I'd say go for it. ^_^

One has only to look at Gaddafi in some of his file photos. He does 'not' wear a suit but still typically manages to pull off a somewhat dignified appearance with a touch of mystery to it all. His wardrobe advisor is a public image genius imho. ^_^

Above all be yourself. Oh... though do consider the suggestion to cut down on the cigarettes... I have yet to meet a person who could concretely explain why they enjoyed cigarettes (and many weren't sure if they liked it at all) plus it is undoubtedly a drain on your financial resources. 6_6

Just a thought though - It is your life at the end of the day and you call the shots for as far as your wellbeing is concerned.

White Power
8thMarch2007, 08:22
Isn't easy to understand the source of these infiltrators / jewish lovers?


http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1488230&lastnode_id=0
Despite the NPD's political flaccidity, and perhaps due to their own desire to appear to be doing something, the governing coalition in Germany, made up of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the Greens, decided to make it a priority to get the NPD judicially declared unconstitutional. This is possible under Art. 21 of the German Basic Law (Grundgesetz - GG), which makes parties unconstitutional if their "goals or the behaviour of their members is directed towards endangering or eliminating the free democratic fundamental order." If a party is declared unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht - BVerfG), it is disbanded, its assets seized, and it is illegal to create a substitute party.

It would seem a rather simple matter to show that the NPD is against the "free democratic fundamental order." Its rhetoric is violent. Its members are more or less open skinheads and Neonazis. Their "political" activities generally involve them getting drunk and someone else getting hurt. Their "-isms" are racism, nativism, anti-Semitism, and alcoholism. This ought to have been a slam dunk.

But it wasn't. Since there had long been suspicion that the drunken skinheads of the NPD didn't think much of democracy, the Party had been under investigation for decades. The Constitutional Protection Agencies (Verfassungsschutz) of all 16 states and the federal government had been on the NPD's case for years. Apart from monitoring publications and public meetings, and keeping tabs on the number of official and unofficial members, these agencies recruited and planted confidential informants in the NPD. Many of these agents ended up in leadership positions, including the Federal Executive Committee of the NPD.

In short, the NPD was saturated with informants. However, the Constitutional Protection Agencies had no idea. Although this party was operating in every state, and every state, in addition to the federal government, had informants in the party, no one had thought to coordinate the efforts. Thus, not only was the NPD brimming with spies, but the spies were spying on each other. No one had any idea who had what agents in the party.

This created a problem for the government's attempt to dissolve the NPD. If the NPD was being controlled by a swarm of agents provocateurs, then it would be hard to show that the Party itself was agitating against the "free democratic order." In fact, if the state were in control of the NPD to a sufficient degree, it would not legally be considered a political party in the first place, which would make it impossible to ban it under Art. 21.

Not surprisingly, the NPD's lawyers made governmental spying and infiltration the main issue in the proceedings before the Federal Constitutional Court.

Decima Mas
8thMarch2007, 08:36
I tend to agree with Marco's comments on appearences as afterall the first impression counts a lot. On the other hand I can relate to EN's comments too as suit and tie do not obviously make the man (as we have frequently seen).

What is most important in being part of a party whether as a full fledged member or simply as an activist is the person's behaviour. A lout will always remain a lout whether wearing a suit or not, whether with a cigarette in mouth or not.

In my opinion I would opt more for a decently dressed not cigarette in mouth image.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 09:51
I think that the suit is a somewhat overrated garment... For as long as the clothing conveys the attitude that one wishes to convey and has style 'potential' then I'd say go for it. ^_^

One has only to look at Gaddafi in some of his file photos. He does 'not' wear a suit but still typically manages to pull off a somewhat dignified appearance with a touch of mystery to it all. His wardrobe advisor is a public image genius imho. ^_^

Above all be yourself. Oh... though do consider the suggestion to cut down on the cigarettes... I have yet to meet a person who could concretely explain why they enjoyed cigarettes (and many weren't sure if they liked it at all) plus it is undoubtedly a drain on your financial resources. 6_6

Just a thought though - It is your life at the end of the day and you call the shots for as far as your wellbeing is concerned.

gadaffi looks a. like a terrorists teacher or b. like he just got back from mating a camel. like them or loathe them suits portray seriousness.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 09:54
Isn't easy to understand the source of these infiltrators / jewish lovers?



i dont think ogenoct is like that WP. i dont like his attitude and his commie bullshit (which he doesnt even believe in) but i dont think he is one of these.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 09:59
I tend to agree with Marco's comments on appearences as afterall the first impression counts a lot. On the other hand I can relate to EN's comments too as suit and tie do not obviously make the man (as we have frequently seen).

What is most important in being part of a party whether as a full fledged member or simply as an activist is the person's behaviour. A lout will always remain a lout whether wearing a suit or not, whether with a cigarette in mouth or not.

In my opinion I would opt more for a decently dressed not cigarette in mouth image.

i commented on the twin dicks above. having a suit does not suddenly turn one into a politician but if a person seeks to dabble in politics he/she should be prepared to look serious and not like a slob/madman/magician/dalai lama/tramp etc.

taking a pic with a political flag whilst looking like a drunken slob and then posting it on the internet (and being proud of it) means something is seriously wrong with that persons approach to a society of bigotted sheeple. either that or he is simply taking the piss.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 10:04
I tend to agree with Marco's comments on appearences as afterall the first impression counts a lot. On the other hand I can relate to EN's comments too as suit and tie do not obviously make the man (as we have frequently seen).

What is most important in being part of a party whether as a full fledged member or simply as an activist is the person's behaviour. A lout will always remain a lout whether wearing a suit or not, whether with a cigarette in mouth or not.

In my opinion I would opt more for a decently dressed not cigarette in mouth image.

also with regards to a lout being a lout. wearing a suit may give the impression that the person is not a lout. look at how many MP's we have in malta. i can easily see austin gatt dressed like a builder with a hanky on his head.

ogenoct
8thMarch2007, 12:18
The NPD is the only party in Germany that warns of the imminent threat that large-scale non-White immigration is posing to the integrity of the biological substance of the White race as a whole. Unlike the establishment parties, the NPD realizes that Europe is being colonized by new barbarians from the south. The Franco-German New Right philosopher Pierre Krebs regularly warns the readers of the DEUTSCHE STIMME of a very real Islamic threat.

At the DEUTSCHE STIMME Press Fest in 2006, Waffen-SS veteran and nationalist writer Herbert Schweiger gave a speech about the geopolitical necessity of a close alliance between Germany and Russia. He fervently exclaimed, "Russia needs Germany, and Germany needs Russia!" While he was giving the speech, the dumb skinheads (who, unfortunately, made up the majority of the Press Fest's attendees) listened to a stupid concert at another stage. Some of them wore ridiculous shirts that had a map of former East Prussia on them, with slogans such as "This is the real East Germany." If these pathetic creeps would have listened to a real National Socialist like Herbert Schweiger instead of listening to White ****** music (also known as White Power music), they might have learned a thing or two about the importance of a unified Europe instead of the unimportance of petty nationalism.

Constantin

praefectus
8thMarch2007, 13:03
Marco Polo: Have you turned into some kind of puritan? Constantin cannot go out with comrades and drink and enjoy German-Russian camaraderie? It's not some official NPD press release photo ... it's Constantin going out with Russian comrades and working pan-European (in this case -- Russo-German) diplomacy. Just as I enjoyed my drinking with Imperium, EN, you, and the rest up at the Sacred Spot (I do not smoke, and I'm a weak drinker, but just the same ... the wine was good). Every "formal" event I have been to with Constantin, he always wears a suit (jacket) and tie (he usually wears something like this normally) -- his cig in his mouth is just him -- he's a Poe'ean of sorts -- alcohol did not hurt the genius of Poe (just cut his life short).

As for Constantin's last post -- I can attest to it, since I was there with him. I always fine it ironic that Waffen-SS vets like Herbert Schweiger or Karl-Heinz Matthias (whom Constantin and I drank with until 3am ... he even out drank Constantin) -- who fought against Russians, had ultra-violent hand-to-hand combat experience with them, and had their friends blown to pieces by Russians -- had only good things to say about Russian soldiers and Russia in general -- AND -- said that Germany and Russia needed each other. Also funny is how Karl-Heinz Matthias basically called skinheads "white ******s" -- and he's ashamed of them. Also, he thought that the "real East Germany" (Prussia) flags and shirts were complete non-sense. They had nothing bad to say about NS Germany, nor did they have any nostalgia (ie.... German Nationalism) ... they were realists, and believe in a pan-European movement. God bless their souls.

Decima Mas
8thMarch2007, 14:38
While he was giving the speech, the dumb skinheads (who, unfortunately, made up the majority of the Press Fest's attendees) listened to a stupid concert at another stage. Some of them wore ridiculous shirts that had a map of former East Prussia on them, with slogans such as "This is the real East Germany." If these pathetic creeps would have listened to a real National Socialist like Herbert Schweiger instead of listening to White ****** music (also known as White Power music), they might have learned a thing or two about the importance of a unified Europe instead of the unimportance of petty nationalism.

Constantin

How I agree with this comment, very well said ogenoct. This is the problem of today's ideology, we get assholes who readily thrust out their right hand only to impress the neighbour's cat and nothing else. Just by being skinheads they think that they are ideologically pure but if one were to squeeze the whole lot nothing special would be drawn.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 18:15
Marco Polo: Have you turned into some kind of puritan? Constantin cannot go out with comrades and drink and enjoy German-Russian camaraderie? It's not some official NPD press release photo ... it's Constantin going out with Russian comrades and working pan-European (in this case -- Russo-German) diplomacy. Just as I enjoyed my drinking with Imperium, EN, you, and the rest up at the Sacred Spot (I do not smoke, and I'm a weak drinker, but just the same ... the wine was good). Every "formal" event I have been to with Constantin, he always wears a suit (jacket) and tie (he usually wears something like this normally) -- his cig in his mouth is just him -- he's a Poe'ean of sorts -- alcohol did not hurt the genius of Poe (just cut his life short).

As for Constantin's last post -- I can attest to it, since I was there with him. I always fine it ironic that Waffen-SS vets like Herbert Schweiger or Karl-Heinz Matthias (whom Constantin and I drank with until 3am ... he even out drank Constantin) -- who fought against Russians, had ultra-violent hand-to-hand combat experience with them, and had their friends blown to pieces by Russians -- had only good things to say about Russian soldiers and Russia in general -- AND -- said that Germany and Russia needed each other. Also funny is how Karl-Heinz Matthias basically called skinheads "white ******s" -- and he's ashamed of them. Also, he thought that the "real East Germany" (Prussia) flags and shirts were complete non-sense. They had nothing bad to say about NS Germany, nor did they have any nostalgia (ie.... German Nationalism) ... they were realists, and believe in a pan-European movement. God bless their souls.

glad to hear he presents himself well at events. i got the impression he only does it all for attention.

do you think it wise seeing as constantin likes to expose himself that he posts pics on the web of him drunk and is actually proud of them? can you find me a pic of a drunk nick griffin that he has placed on the web? can you find one of any serious figure that does the same?

you know that i am right but you will defend your friend regardless and thats a good thing. however you really should tell him to straighten up in public if he wants to be a public figure. you dont have to do it here of course but he needs straightening out. if he cant straighten out then he should cease public appearances if he has any respect for his own opinions as his appearance ridicules them.

shadow cup
8thMarch2007, 18:19
A deviance in one's image is only as damaging to the self as the modifier applied through one's attitude to this fact, regardless of the magnitude of the hyping of such factors.

In other words. One can be one's own worst enemy in this regard. One (wo)man's weakness may be another (wo)man's strength and such depends more upon the fashion in which one's attributes are utilized rather than the extent to which they are utilized.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 18:20
The NPD is the only party in Germany that warns of the imminent threat that large-scale non-White immigration is posing to the integrity of the biological substance of the White race as a whole. Unlike the establishment parties, the NPD realizes that Europe is being colonized by new barbarians from the south. The Franco-German New Right philosopher Pierre Krebs regularly warns the readers of the DEUTSCHE STIMME of a very real Islamic threat.

At the DEUTSCHE STIMME Press Fest in 2006, Waffen-SS veteran and nationalist writer Herbert Schweiger gave a speech about the geopolitical necessity of a close alliance between Germany and Russia. He fervently exclaimed, "Russia needs Germany, and Germany needs Russia!" While he was giving the speech, the dumb skinheads (who, unfortunately, made up the majority of the Press Fest's attendees) listened to a stupid concert at another stage. Some of them wore ridiculous shirts that had a map of former East Prussia on them, with slogans such as "This is the real East Germany." If these pathetic creeps would have listened to a real National Socialist like Herbert Schweiger instead of listening to White ****** music (also known as White Power music), they might have learned a thing or two about the importance of a unified Europe instead of the unimportance of petty nationalism.

Constantin

well said. unfortunately sometimes its like educating pork. it far easier to demonise anyone slightly different than to understand the importance of a united europe. most people dont have the slightest cultural understanding of the common bonds between europeans. todays bnp for eg annoys me with the anti-pole stance although it is understandable given the numbers.

to americans, canadians etc. pan-europeanism is understandable. sadly most europeans are petty nationalists although i am sure they would join together in the face of a common threat. the eu is partly to blame and britains atlanticists also.

praefectus
8thMarch2007, 23:07
Sometimes you can be quite silly Marco ... when have I EVER "defended" somebody simply for being my friend? I consider politics as something outside of my personal relationship sphere ... maybe you play the cronyism game, but I never will.

Second, comparing Constantin to Nick Griffin is outside the scope of any rational debate -- Nick Griffin is a "politician" -- who says one thing in public, and says something else in private (ie... he wears a double-face) ... Constantin, on the other hand, is not participating in any elections and NEVER says one thing in public and then something else in private. With Constantin, you *always* know where you stand -- friend or foe. Constantin is more of a Filippo Tommaso Marinetti than a wannabe Oswald Mosley. He doesn't pretend to "believe" in one thing for strategical reasons (Griffin -- support for Jews in the BNP), and then in private demonize them. Constantin tells it like it is.

Constantin *is* a public figure, but he is not running around trying to please anybody -- this is why I highly value my friendship with him, because he's highly authenic (and original). It's unfortuate that you are constantly attacking him, simply because you have a (warped) view and understanding of his writings, ideology, etc... However, I most certainly won't defend *some* of the things he says, because I argue against them with him in private -- as a friend. I don't need to attack him personally to push my agenda.

Constantin always represents himself well - this is why he's always sought after by people and parties to give speeches, interviews, etc.... plus, he can enjoy life too (he's not a puritan like you :-))

Of course, I couldn't drink like him ... but then again, I'm not fully German :P

P.

glad to hear he presents himself well at events. i got the impression he only does it all for attention.

do you think it wise seeing as constantin likes to expose himself that he posts pics on the web of him drunk and is actually proud of them? can you find me a pic of a drunk nick griffin that he has placed on the web? can you find one of any serious figure that does the same?

you know that i am right but you will defend your friend regardless and thats a good thing. however you really should tell him to straighten up in public if he wants to be a public figure. you dont have to do it here of course but he needs straightening out. if he cant straighten out then he should cease public appearances if he has any respect for his own opinions as his appearance ridicules them.

Marco Polo
8thMarch2007, 23:49
Sometimes you can be quite silly Marco ... when have I EVER "defended" somebody simply for being my friend? I consider politics as something outside of my personal relationship sphere ... maybe you play the cronyism game, but I never will.

Second, comparing Constantin to Nick Griffin is outside the scope of any rational debate -- Nick Griffin is a "politician" -- who says one thing in public, and says something else in private (ie... he wears a double-face) ... Constantin, on the other hand, is not participating in any elections and NEVER says one thing in public and then something else in private. With Constantin, you *always* know where you stand -- friend or foe. Constantin is more of a Filippo Tommaso Marinetti than a wannabe Oswald Mosley. He doesn't pretend to "believe" in one thing for strategical reasons (Griffin -- support for Jews in the BNP), and then in private demonize them. Constantin tells it like it is.

Constantin *is* a public figure, but he is not running around trying to please anybody -- this is why I highly value my friendship with him, because he's highly authenic (and original). It's unfortuate that you are constantly attacking him, simply because you have a (warped) view and understanding of his writings, ideology, etc... However, I most certainly won't defend *some* of the things he says, because I argue against them with him in private -- as a friend. I don't need to attack him personally to push my agenda.

Constantin always represents himself well - this is why he's always sought after by people and parties to give speeches, interviews, etc.... plus, he can enjoy life too (he's not a puritan like you :-))

Of course, I couldn't drink like him ... but then again, I'm not fully German :P

P.

well you did it last week. you came in through half an argument and demanded i ban myself. you should have stuck around more and seen the entire arguments and their developments and not the last bits. it wasnt constantin so much but his commie friend. constantin pissed me off with his stupid reasoning that because i cant stand commies, i cant stand slavs which is total nonsense. because you cant seem to read more than the previous several posts you asked me to ban myself. lol! i wouldnt even have banned constantin, what he should have done and still hasnt was to apologise to all the maltese here for calling us half ******s.

maybe i have a different perspective but seeing a few drunks draped in an npd flag is not my cup of tea quite frankly. one might as well urinate on it. i wouldnt want that image on vm or any political party i have a sympathy for. if he must be drunk around a flag let it be a commie one.

politicians have to do what they do because they have no choice. we can talk pie in the sky till the cows come home but the vast majority of people are too stupid to see what is quite obvious after engaging in a little thought, thus politicians have to play along with their stupidity.

and im no puritan, i have blurted things out in the past that i regret. i dont push myself in the public sphere though. :))

praefectus
9thMarch2007, 11:05
I did read the entire thread, and I thought the arguments against Constantin and Captain were, for the most part, completely inadequate and simple, but I won't point any fingers.

However, giving a specific example of a failed policy in Communism (even if true, which in many of the cases provided by VM forum members, were not) does not invalidate the whole ideology -- just as the deeds of predatory capitalists like Kenneth Lay does not invalidate the entire concept of Capitalism. Sophistry has no place among friends. Pointing out what worked and what did not I think is legitimate discourse. Attacking somebody personally because you disagree is, well, rather childish.

If your memory hasn't failed you, you will remember along with the fact that I asked you to ban yourself or refrain from posting for 3 days, I *did* ban Captain and Constantin for 3 days. In your previous post, you stated that I would "defend my friend" (which is nonsense) ... I banned "my friends" (I am under the assumption that you're my friend, too, and it did not stop me from trying to ban you as well) -- not sure how that is "defending them." In fact, Constantin agreed he posted an insult, and didn't complain to me about being banned. However, reading the entire thread, it's obvious you were provoking him from the start. How you can personally attack both Constantin and Captain, both first and foremost racialists, is beyond me. But, naturally, that's your perogative. I would (and did) expect you to at least follow the rules as nobody, not me or you, should be above "the law." You complied in the past, I was surpised you did not comply this time.

And yes, politicians have a choice -- Norman doesn't pull any punches either for the most part. He says what's on his mind.

I like Constantin's picture with his "drunk friends" -- you don't like it, that's fine. I bet more people here like it than dislike it. How much you wanna bet? :P

You don't push yourself in the public sphere? Did you notice how many posts you have in the VM forums? Surely you jest :-)



well you did it last week. you came in through half an argument and demanded i ban myself. you should have stuck around more and seen the entire arguments and their developments and not the last bits. it wasnt constantin so much but his commie friend. constantin pissed me off with his stupid reasoning that because i cant stand commies, i cant stand slavs which is total nonsense. because you cant seem to read more than the previous several posts you asked me to ban myself. lol! i wouldnt even have banned constantin, what he should have done and still hasnt was to apologise to all the maltese here for calling us half ******s.

maybe i have a different perspective but seeing a few drunks draped in an npd flag is not my cup of tea quite frankly. one might as well urinate on it. i wouldnt want that image on vm or any political party i have a sympathy for. if he must be drunk around a flag let it be a commie one.

politicians have to do what they do because they have no choice. we can talk pie in the sky till the cows come home but the vast majority of people are too stupid to see what is quite obvious after engaging in a little thought, thus politicians have to play along with their stupidity.

and im no puritan, i have blurted things out in the past that i regret. i dont push myself in the public sphere though. :))

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 13:34
I did read the entire thread, and I thought the arguments against Constantin and Captain were, for the most part, completely inadequate and simple, but I won't point any fingers.

However, giving a specific example of a failed policy in Communism (even if true, which in many of the cases provided by VM forum members, were not) does not invalidate the whole ideology -- just as the deeds of predatory capitalists like Kenneth Lay does not invalidate the entire concept of Capitalism. Sophistry has no place among friends. Pointing out what worked and what did not I think is legitimate discourse. Attacking somebody personally because you disagree is, well, rather childish.

If your memory hasn't failed you, you will remember along with the fact that I asked you to ban yourself or refrain from posting for 3 days, I *did* ban Captain and Constantin for 3 days. In your previous post, you stated that I would "defend my friend" (which is nonsense) ... I banned "my friends" (I am under the assumption that you're my friend, too, and it did not stop me from trying to ban you as well) -- not sure how that is "defending them." In fact, Constantin agreed he posted an insult, and didn't complain to me about being banned. However, reading the entire thread, it's obvious you were provoking him from the start. How you can personally attack both Constantin and Captain, both first and foremost racialists, is beyond me. But, naturally, that's your perogative. I would (and did) expect you to at least follow the rules as nobody, not me or you, should be above "the law." You complied in the past, I was surpised you did not comply this time.

And yes, politicians have a choice -- Norman doesn't pull any punches either for the most part. He says what's on his mind.

I like Constantin's picture with his "drunk friends" -- you don't like it, that's fine. I bet more people here like it than dislike it. How much you wanna bet? :P

You don't push yourself in the public sphere? Did you notice how many posts you have in the VM forums? Surely you jest :-)
and do you really think the entire thread is enough? that was just a tiny fraction of the whole argument. consistant ignoring of valid arguments and changing arguments post after post. it was never-ending bullshit that ended in anti-commie=anti-slav which is nonsense.

communism was invalidated by one core fact that must be accepted by all belief systems if they are to get anywhere, that is that people are selfish by nature. altruism is the ultimate selfish act but it is beneficial in its organic consequences such as the nation. the nation is altruism between a group of related people. they work together for the common good because it is in the individuals self interest. at the end of the day it is selfishness that motivates people and not altruism. communism belives that the common good will motivate people when it does not, capitalism believes that selfishness motivates people and it is right. the problem is keeping the most selfish in check so they do not abuse others altruistic tendencies.

for a nice logical explanation visit google video and see richard dawkins 'nice guys finish first'. whilst dawkins explains that altruism is a good thing he also shows that it is clearly motivated by selfishness. see the experiment and you will see why.

for an efficient system it is selfishness that must be harnessed and not false beliefs that everyone will work for the common good. too much altruism just doesnt work. creatures will always be selfish.

i pointed out that marinesko has a flawed argument with capitalism leading to multiculturalism. i pointed out that japan has a capitalism system that works very well even though they have more material problems than western countries. marinesko then stated that they have a different culture. well that shows that capitalism does not always lead to multicult.

if you must state that capitalism leads to multicult then state a valid reason why. people want to come to our countries because we are so damn succesful. who the hell wants to live in a commie shithole? we have immigrants because we do not produce enough kids. instead of doing what japan did and rely more on our brains to build machines to do work, we prefer to import cheap labour. this was one problem with the us civil war where i have to side with the yankees. americas slavery is what has caused its problems today. if only they had used machines instead!

do we really need people at a mcdonalds? cant machines do that job?

one of the main reasons i didnt comply was a. that you havent been around and you only seem to pop in to whine and b. because you havent been around you do not see the entire arguments.

i have different opinions than many people but i do not ridicule usually. its only after repeated nonsense that i resorted to that tactic.

to be racialist and live in a miserable socialist system is not my cup of tea thank you. we are quite capable of having capitalism AND white societies, we need babies and machines. neither capn or hoffy needed banning, they just needed to stop living on the moon (and an apology from constantin).

communism never worked and never will, it will always see someone or some group abuse the system to his own ends. socialism should be minimal or it wont work either. everyone should work for himself (and family), and the common good.

when i state public i mean public as in giving speeches and such. if it were up to me this forum would either not exist or would be private. an online bar and a propaganda machine are two different things. fora are not organs of propaganda. the best solution would be a known members only forum.

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 15:38
The NPD is anti-imperialist in the sense that it is opposed to the anti-White policies that AmeriKa is currently pursuing. AmeriKa's belligerent actions are not in the interest of Europeans. The NPD romanticizes the German Reich. It describes itself as "nationalist and socialist" (which reminds one of the imperial glory of the Third Reich). It is a mistake to demand a "Europe of the fatherlands" (like the NPD does). Only Europe AS A NATION will be able to defeat the enemies of the White race. Nationalism is regressive. Nevertheless, the NPD advocates a Europe that finds its way back to its age-old traditions and myths. The idea of the German Reich is modern in the sense that it evokes the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation which in itself was the continuation of the Roman Empire and hence the legitimate incarnation of the eternal idea of Imperivm Evropa. Pan-Europeanism is progressive. The NPD needs to develop a strong imperial (as opposed to imperialist) outlook, although it is already heading in the right direction.

Constantin

etoile noir
9thMarch2007, 15:45
The NPD is anti-imperialist in the sense that it is opposed to the anti-White policies that AmeriKa is currently pursuing. AmeriKa's belligerent actions are not in the interest of Europeans. The NPD romanticizes the German Reich. It describes itself as "nationalist and socialist" (which reminds one of the imperial glory of the Third Reich). It is a mistake to demand a "Europe of the fatherlands" (like the NPD does). Only Europe AS A NATION will be able to defeat the enemies of the White race. Nationalism is regressive. Nevertheless, the NPD advocates a Europe that finds its way back to its age-old traditions and myths. The idea of the German Reich is modern in the sense that it evokes the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation which in itself was the continuation of the Roman Empire and hence the legitimate incarnation of the eternal idea of Imperivm Evropa. Pan-Europeanism is progressive. The NPD needs to develop a strong imperial (as opposed to imperialist) outlook, although it is already heading in the right direction.

Constantin

all very well however why does the NPD concentrate on the anti white actions of america rather than those of europe?
i agree that america's actions are not in the interest of europe - why should they be? but quite frankly i think it would serve a better purpose if the NPD concentrated on the problems in its own backyard first.

the main problem with europe in general is that it always seems to follow american trends, from mc donalds shit food to globalisation and capitalism.

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 15:50
all very well however why does the NPD concentrate on the anti white actions of america rather than those of europe?

I never said that.

i agree that america's actions are not in the interest of europe - why should they be?

Because AmeriKa is a European country.

but quite frankly i think it would serve a better purpose if the NPD concentrated on the problems in its own backyard first.

It does.

the main problem with europe in general is that it always seems to follow american trends, from mc donalds shit food to globalisation and capitalism.

Nothing wrong with McDonald's.

Constantin

etoile noir
9thMarch2007, 15:58
I never said that.
you did and i even highlighted it in bold font.

Because AmeriKa is a European country.
why? because most of the original immigrants that made america came from europe?
well if it was it doesnt remain so now. most immigrants and new americans are latinos, hispanics and mexians.

where exactly does "europe" start and finish in your atlas?

It does.
good. i never meant to be destructive in my criticism. as far as i know, i am constructive and i have nothing against the npd. i just feel that as europeans, we should put europe first and foremost. america and the real americans can then follow.

Nothing wrong with McDonald's.
crap and you know it. why just coz they serve salads?
if i want to get my salads from mc donalds i might as well get my vitamins from a crackhouse.

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 16:04
you did and i even highlighted it in bold font.

No, I did not. What you highlighted does not say that the NPD "concentrates on the anti-White actions of America" (as you falsely alleged).

most immigrants and new americans are latinos, hispanics and mexians.

They are not Americans. Only European-Americans are real Americans.

where exactly does "europe" start and finish in your atlas?

Wherever Europeans have built and maintained civilizations. I am aware of the fact that certain people on this forum have a very loose concept of Europe (like Marco Polo who does not even consider Russians Europeans).

crap and you know it. why just coz they serve salads?
if i want to get my salads from mc donalds i might as well get my vitamins from a crackhouse.

That sounds like hippie propaganda. McDonald's only uses high quality ingredients. That is a fact.

Constantin

etoile noir
9thMarch2007, 16:22
No, I did not. What you highlighted does not say that the NPD "concentrates on the anti-White actions of America" (as you falsely alleged).
why should i want to allege anything? this is what you wrote and this is what i read:

The NPD is anti-imperialist in the sense that it is opposed to the anti-White policies that AmeriKa is currently pursuing. AmeriKa's belligerent actions are not in the interest of Europeans

what i said was that the NPD is right in being anti-imperialistic but that it should first concentrate on what is happening in europe and hope that the europeans in america would follow suit. simple!

They are not Americans. Only European-Americans are real Americans.
last i heard they had the same papers and voting rights as the irish, the german, the italians, etc. but again, i agree. a latino can never be classified as a european. the problem would arise when we have to draw the line and distinguish between a european and a non european.

does the NPD have any plans on how to achieve that?

Wherever Europeans have built and maintained civilizations. I am aware of the fact that certain people on this forum have a very loose concept of Europe (like Marco Polo who does not even consider Russians Europeans).

a) you are generalising and
b) marco polo never said that russians are not europeans. if anything we have countless arguments coz i refer to malta's russians, belarussians and other illegal europeans as white trash and he says i'm jealous of these pedestrian ladies of pleasure.

that said, i agree with your concept of europe starting and ending wherever europeans have built civilisations.

That sounds like hippie propaganda. McDonald's only uses high quality ingredients. That is a fact.
lol. if mine is hippie propaganda, yours is capitalist crap.

high quality ingredients, i.e. colored mush flavoured to look and taste like meat served by cheesy smiling "may i help you" kids who happily spit in your burger :eek:

your local vodka bar, even if cockroach infested, is a 5* place compared to mc donalds shiny exterior.

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 16:25
No, I did not. What you highlighted does not say that the NPD "concentrates on the anti-White actions of America" (as you falsely alleged).



They are not Americans. Only European-Americans are real Americans.



Wherever Europeans have built and maintained civilizations. I am aware of the fact that certain people on this forum have a very loose concept of Europe (like Marco Polo who does not even consider Russians Europeans).



That sounds like hippie propaganda. McDonald's only uses high quality ingredients. That is a fact.

Constantin

spot the dickhead now daddy praefectus.

thank you constantin for your usual nonsense. im anti commie not anti slav. the slav countries were backwards cos of communism not cos they are slavs. slavs have cute butts.

etoile noir
9thMarch2007, 16:30
spot the dickhead now daddy praefectus.

thank you constantin for your usual nonsense. im anti commie not anti slav. the slav countries were backwards cos of communism not cos they are slavs. slavs have cute butts.
that was personal and uncalled for.
why cant we debate without getting personal?? enough already :mad:

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 16:30
if us 3 put ourselves in a magimix we may get somewhere. just dont add any vodka.

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 16:32
that was personal and uncalled for.
why cant we debate without getting personal?? enough already :mad:

because the man is a dickhead. if he wasnt so self obsessed and actually read threads that arent started by himself he would know my views on slavs. instead he continues with his nonsense.

thus he is a dickhead and a drunkard too. two facts for the price of one!

etoile noir
9thMarch2007, 16:34
because the man is a dickhead. if he wasnt so self obsessed and actually read threads that arent started by himself he would know my views on slavs. instead he continues with his nonsense.
and i explained that without getting personal. is it too much to ask admin to do same?

thus he is a dickhead and a drunkard too. two facts for the price of one!
bullshit. he has a brain and even if i disagree with him on every facet that exists, i can still argue with him without name calling.
i suggest you do same.

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 16:39
and i explained that without getting personal. is it too much to ask admin to do same?


bullshit. he has a brain and even if i disagree with him on every facet that exists, i can still argue with him without name calling.
i suggest you do same.

well how about he quits provoking with his utter bullshit? he knows i wont ban his ass for trolling and thus abuses my respect.

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 16:59
Marco Polo said that Russians do not need to be preserved because he (falsely) believes they are part oriental. He also said that Russians are "fucked up." Plus, he constantly talks about Europe AND Russia as if Russia was not a part of Europe. How does that not make Marco Polo anti-Russian? Case closed.

Constantin

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 17:07
why should i want to allege anything? this is what you wrote and this is what i read:

The NPD is anti-imperialist in the sense that it is opposed to the anti-White policies that AmeriKa is currently pursuing. AmeriKa's belligerent actions are not in the interest of Europeans

what i said was that the NPD is right in being anti-imperialistic but that it should first concentrate on what is happening in europe and hope that the europeans in america would follow suit. simple!

Still, I never said that the NPD "concentrates on the anti-White actions of America." You said that I did. That is all.

last i heard they had the same papers and voting rights as the irish, the german, the italians, etc. but again, i agree. a latino can never be classified as a european. the problem would arise when we have to draw the line and distinguish between a european and a non european.

The last time I heard many Turks in Germany have a German passport and voting rights. Does that make them German? What problem might arise "when we have to draw the line and distinguish between a European and a non-European"? I am not quite sure what you mean.

a) you are generalising and
b) marco polo never said that russians are not europeans.

I am not generalizing. Marco Polo implied on numerous occasions that Russians are not Europeans. His Russophobic comments are documented on this forum.

Constantin

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 17:38
Check this out Constantin.http://www.supersizeme.com/

I saw the film when it came out in the theatre. It did not convince me. I eat breakfast four or five times a week at McDonald's. I never got sick.

Constantin

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 18:24
Marco Polo said that Russians do not need to be preserved because he (falsely) believes they are part oriental. He also said that Russians are "fucked up." Plus, he constantly talks about Europe AND Russia as if Russia was not a part of Europe. How does that not make Marco Polo anti-Russian? Case closed.

Constantin

can you kindly find where i stated this? some russians are part oriental including comrade stalin. he was a damn khazar turk (at least in part) just like ur jew buddies. most of russia is in asia too so to say there isnt any mixing in russia even today is false.

i talk about europe and russia because when one talks of europe they usually mean europe excluding russia. to me europe as an organic concept also includes n america, australia etc.

russians are fucked up for similar reasons maltese are: socialism. here we have the church too but our socialist illness wasnt as severe as russias i think.

ogenoct
9thMarch2007, 18:29
some russians are part oriental including comrade stalin. he was a damn khazar turk (at least in part) just like ur jew buddies.

Ahem...no.

Constantin

Marco Polo
9thMarch2007, 18:34
Ahem...no.

Constantin

georgia is right next to turkey which is obviously turkic and we are supposed to believe there has been no mixing? khazars are part asiatic and 'khazaria' was even further north than georgia.

then you have siberia which borders with asian states and there has never been mixing there?

if you are going to call muscovites and the people of st petersburg the only russians then of course russians are wholly european. russia is too vast and extends too far into asian lands for there not to have been mixing.

to me it isnt a problem as asians arent exactly a junk race. the problem is when one mixes with savage negro beasts.

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 13:09
here we go praefectus. nice guys finish first

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8068309038544717701

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 17:48
You., son ... ;)

I'm still not sure how slav countries are backward, though (I live in one too). Please elaborate ...



spot the dickhead now daddy praefectus.

thank you constantin for your usual nonsense. im anti commie not anti slav. the slav countries were backwards cos of communism not cos they are slavs. slavs have cute butts.

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 17:50
Wouldn't that back up the theories of "Communism" then, and disprove your "people are generally selfish" theory? Sounds like it to me .... the "Tit for Tat" strategy comes out best in the long run, and they start by cooperating.

I think you just disproved yourself. I did like the video, though (weak examples, but still good).

here we go praefectus. nice guys finish first

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8068309038544717701

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 17:53
I also like McDonald's sometimes, too -- there is nothing wrong with this, fast, efficient, clean, non-smoking institution. Anti-McDonald's hysteria is nothing more than resentment in the Nietzschean mold.

:-)

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 18:37
Wouldn't that back up the theories of "Communism" then, and disprove your "people are generally selfish" theory? Sounds like it to me .... the "Tit for Tat" strategy comes out best in the long run, and they start by cooperating.

I think you just disproved yourself. I did like the video, though (weak examples, but still good).

it shows that the motive is selfishness at the end of the day because we cooperate for our own personal good (selfishness). in communism selfishness is practically wiped out so why even care any more? just go to work and behave as squalid as the rest of them. it is not worth the effort to gain some tiny amount. the factory loses efficiency through apathy as there is no strong motivation to try harder. i dont give a shit about statues, show me the money!

with capitalism you work for yourself but that translates into the common good (the firm). you work hard and go far, as does your company thus nation. selfishness for the common good.

dawkins talks from a leftist pov (hes a professor thus relies on socialism) so ignore his skewed perspectives. his arguments against racialism are even more pathetic. besides these he is generally right.

dawkins tried to spin the entire film from a leftist angle and you swallowed it as you spend too much time with commies and have lived in an ex-soviet nation for too long i think :D. in reality it shows plainly that everyone is motivated by selfishness. there is a balance between selfishness and altruism. nations exist for the common good, individualism exists for the self. combine the both and you have the perfect system.

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 18:38
I also like McDonald's sometimes, too -- there is nothing wrong with this, fast, efficient, clean, non-smoking institution. Anti-McDonald's hysteria is nothing more than resentment in the Nietzschean mold.

:-)

mc d tastes like cardboard. bk is way better. i still prefer serkin, flies and all.

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 18:43
You., son ... ;)

I'm still not sure how slav countries are backward, though (I live in one too). Please elaborate ...

backwards economically. it doesnt really apply to the czech rep so much. the ones that have joined the eu are moving forward as they have shifted up a gear.

etoile noir
10thMarch2007, 18:57
I also like McDonald's sometimes, too -- there is nothing wrong with this, fast, efficient, clean, non-smoking institution. Anti-McDonald's hysteria is nothing more than resentment in the Nietzschean mold.

:-)
thanks for psychoanalysing me mr freud :rolleyes:

i dont know about your part of the woods, but around here fast, efficient and non-smoking is every damned restaurant / eating place you can think of. i'm not too sure about the "clean" bit but then again, i'd rather eat off a table that has been wiped clean with good old soap and water rather than that awful disinfectant smelly stuff that causes my eyes to water.

just for the record, and so that you and our friend constantin dont think i'm saying this coz i dont even know what mc D is.
i went there today to test your theory. they are fast clean and efficient. i gave the mc meal to my son and drank the hot choc myself.
my kid says the food is ok .... then again he eats anything.
the hot choc was hot but tasted of anything but chocolate.
the disinfectant almost made me puke and my eyes are still watering.

so basically boys, if you so like mc d, go ahead but i'm not willing to subsidise a huge conglomerate that raises chickens in the most awful of circumstances, kills them after 23 days and feeds gmo to people.

i'd much rather leave my money at the local bar who bakes his own pastizzi and cakes and give me a nice cuppa hot tea - or vodka - whichever takes your fancy.

you'll probably call me small minded coming from a small backwater island. i dont mind for ultimately that's what i am and that's what i want to preserve.

shadow cup
10thMarch2007, 19:29
The best thing about Mc D is in the thick shake with close second being the sauce dippers. ^_^ The food is actually for the most part tasty and its about as fat-rich as one would expect.

I do understand your point on the awful farming process (and lets not forget employeee exploitation) that Mc D chooses to make its own... but I would not lay full blame for such on the entrepreneur, who merely exploits a resource. Rather I'd lay more than half the blame upon international laws that are far too lax upon the living rights of all species (including humans - why not? consistency.) hence bringing about the grossly exploitable situation in the first place.

And you're bashing yourself up a little too hastily. ^_^;;; Chin up!

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 21:53
Marco:

I like BK over McDonald's too -- we are in agreement. (we do not have BK yet here in the CZ, I'm patiently waiting).

EN:

I did not say that McDonald's was my favorite place to eat, or that I even eat McDonald's all that much (it appears Constantin depends upon it, whereas I find it a last hope option at night or when I just want to eat and go). I like the fact that Micky Dees (as we call it in the states) exist. When I travel to some foreign country, and I'm scared to go into some local place because of some language barrier, menu isn't in a language I understand, etc.... Micky Dees is always there for me. :-)

I ate in plenty of places in Malta, and they were all top notch (I did go to B.K. once, because of my remark above -- just don't have one in the CZ) ... but sometimes, I don't want to sit around waiting for someone to serve me, wait for them to cook it, then wait for the bill .... I wanted to eat, and go back out and walk around and check out the sites. Micky Dees (inter alios) serves that purpose well. You cannot deny it. I find McDonald's bashing just a trendy thing to do ... everybody has eaten there more than once, so just stop with the hypocracy. :-)

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 22:00
How is it backwards economically?

- It's number #2 behind China in fastest growing GDP

- It just made #3 on Forbes list of Billionares (only the U.S. and Germany have more)

- It has a low, 15% flat tax

- Its science and engineering education has bred a new tech industry (bio, IT, high-tech)

- It is the only country with a Space Tourist program


Seems like it's starting to do good to me. I will admit that there is room for improvement, but there is a lot of improvement to be had in Malta, from what you Malts say. (ditto for the CZ)





backwards economically. it doesnt really apply to the czech rep so much. the ones that have joined the eu are moving forward as they have shifted up a gear.

praefectus
10thMarch2007, 22:02
Join the darkside -- Maaahaaaaa! ;-)



It sounds like Praefectus and Constantin are members of the McDonalds fan club wheras I doubt wether McDonalds is a paid up member of the NPD:rolleyes:Yes!I too am sad cuz I ended up joining in the 'lets babble on about McDonalds'.(btt)....heathens!

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 23:18
spot the dickhead now daddy praefectus.

thank you constantin for your usual nonsense. im anti commie not anti slav. the slav countries were backwards cos of communism not cos they are slavs. slavs have cute butts.

You., son ... ;)

I'm still not sure how slav countries are backward, though (I live in one too). Please elaborate ...


backwards economically. it doesnt really apply to the czech rep so much. the ones that have joined the eu are moving forward as they have shifted up a gear.

How is it backwards economically?

- It's number #2 behind China in fastest growing GDP

- It just made #3 on Forbes list of Billionares (only the U.S. and Germany have more)

- It has a low, 15% flat tax

- Its science and engineering education has bred a new tech industry (bio, IT, high-tech)

- It is the only country with a Space Tourist program


Seems like it's starting to do good to me. I will admit that there is room for improvement, but there is a lot of improvement to be had in Malta, from what you Malts say. (ditto for the CZ)

thank you for agreeing with me then. socialism kept malta back and communism kept the others back. cz moved forward because they had the opportunity to surge forward after the collapse of the 'evil empire' :D

russia too is moving forward thanks to the triumph of capitalism over communism.

its not that simple i know but economically communism sucks. the bad of capitalism can be kept in check.

Marco Polo
10thMarch2007, 23:20
it shows that the motive is selfishness at the end of the day because we cooperate for our own personal good (selfishness). in communism selfishness is practically wiped out so why even care any more? just go to work and behave as squalid as the rest of them. it is not worth the effort to gain some tiny amount. the factory loses efficiency through apathy as there is no strong motivation to try harder. i dont give a shit about statues, show me the money!

with capitalism you work for yourself but that translates into the common good (the firm). you work hard and go far, as does your company thus nation. selfishness for the common good.

dawkins talks from a leftist pov (hes a professor thus relies on socialism) so ignore his skewed perspectives. his arguments against racialism are even more pathetic. besides these he is generally right.

dawkins tried to spin the entire film from a leftist angle and you swallowed it as you spend too much time with commies and have lived in an ex-soviet nation for too long i think :D. in reality it shows plainly that everyone is motivated by selfishness. there is a balance between selfishness and altruism. nations exist for the common good, individualism exists for the self. combine the both and you have the perfect system.

i assume you agree with this praefectus, or have you completely lost your evilamericancapitalist mind to commie brejnwoxxing techniques?

ogenoct
30thMarch2007, 15:57
http://www.sachsenpublizistik.de/index_e.php

Since December 2005 our new journal project from Saxony has been available to the public. The name “Hier & Jetzt” (“Here & Now”) is by no means a by-product of coincidence, just as the publication of such a journal is not subject to happenstance but instead as contemporary necessities demand it.

“Hier & Jetzt” is giving a name to the urgent demand to influence o u r i m m e d i a t e s u r r o u n d i n g s a t p r e s e n t , so that, originating from these closer localities, we can create a reforming movement of political action for the entirety of Germany. Not only does such a shift demand basic mental faculties, but moreover an equally serious as deed-affectionate tenor of the human being. Such we hope to find especially amongst our readers.

It is also “Hier & Jetzt” because we would neither want to lose ourselves in an unswerving anachronism of “yesterday”, nor to content ourselves with false illusions of a better “tomorrow”.

It is necessary to apply a measure of action leading to a National renewal in a modern way, which is indispensable to a change in the political era – h e r e a n d n o w.

The articles of our contributers shall thus not find their way into common thought as theoretical outlines, but rather lay a resolution for purposeful action that overbears the lapses of nowadays. The fact that it is not only collaborators within proximity of the party, such as the Jungen Nationaldemokraten (Young National Democrats; JN), that cooperate on this project, but indeed independent reports, that feel obliged to serve the paper in their work as freelance reports, characterises the general open-mindedness towards nation models of renewal and at the same time ensures an unrestricted versatility of topics and viewpoints.

Thus, “Hier & Jetzt” understands itself as a journalistic component of such a reform of thinking direct at purposeful action. It is a contemporary political magazine that should especially be read by youngsters, for it represents the so far largely unconsidered motivations of the youth and writes about “what is going on” in the National progress which was so far oft misinterpreted.

Therefore a main concern of our journal is to oppose the one-sidedness of the established press by way of alternative positions of though. The happenings at present time demand a reflexive awareness of the bygone, as well as farsightedness as regards the developing matters of the future, that often find their way into everyday reporting only to very limited extent.

The NPDs entry to the Saxon Assembly once more uncovered how scot-free media campaigns and their tutelage errandboys – who at large delve from the burgeoisie – can initiate a war of agression, mainly limited on the inadequate term of “right-wing extremism” and irrelevant polemics, as a means of stigmatization of time-critical and system-critical opinion. In this respect it appears as though an approach towards a climax of a democratic crisis, whose symptoms are expressed not least in the collective tolerance and demand of thought prohibition, has already been undertaken.

As such, “Hier & Jetzt” would like to provide a contribution towards the extension of spectrum in argumentative discurse in the media, that is neither restrained by “taboo topics”, nor directed by the mainstream of so-called “public opinion”.

ogenoct
17thOctober2007, 11:31
Here is a promotional video by the NPD in Hessen (at the top of the page):

http://volksfront-medien.de/video_demos.html

It announces a demonstration that will take place on October 20 in Frankfurt. It will be a demonstration against the planned construction of a grand mosque.

Translation of the video:

"The future of us all?"

"The Germany of tomorrow?"

"Count us out!"

"No mosque in Frankfurt-Hausen!"

Two of the banners that can be seen in the background read: "German wine instead of American bottom shelf liquor!" and "Europe awake!"

Here is a nice promotional image for the same event:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/fritzmaster18/npd-hessen-demofrankfurt.jpg

Translation:

"No grand mosque in Frankfurt-Hausen"

"Islamists out!"

"The German-social power - NPD: the Nationalists"

etoile noir
17thOctober2007, 12:25
very good initiative Constantin. do you have permission to rally? to organise it i mean?

congrats and good luck.