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argo
21stJune2006, 13:58
Breaking news:

Wed. 21 June 2006 14:00

Some of our unwanted guests are blocking an airplane by rounding it up in Medavia facility at Safi.

Situation evolving.



Will post more info as it comes in.

argo
21stJune2006, 14:03
14:03

Situation is deteriorating rapidly. A lot of the criminal klandestini escaped.

argo
21stJune2006, 14:10
A Lufthansa aircraft callsign 2Tango Whiskey was about to take off and apparently the airport fence was breached.

Information is very sketchy and confused for the moment.

Gladiator
21stJune2006, 14:14
A Lufthansa aircraft callsign 2Tango Whiskey was about to take off and apparently the airport fence was breached.

Information is very sketchy and confused for the moment.


Calling 2Tango Whiskey.....run the bastards down. You are cleared for take off. Roger.:p

Animus
21stJune2006, 14:18
A Lufthansa aircraft callsign 2Tango Whiskey was about to take off and apparently the airport fence was breached.

Information is very sketchy and confused for the moment.



Had this been done by a regular Maltese citizen - perhaps an aviation enthusiast who only snipped a small hole in the fence for his camera's lens to poke through, he/she would have serious charges pressed against him/her.
I wonder, will there be similar charges pressed this time. Or is the fact that they are KLANDESTINI enough for these charges to be dropped, possibly not even considered?:confused:

NormanSoldier
21stJune2006, 14:29
Had this been done by a regular Maltese citizen - perhaps an aviation enthusiast who only snipped a small hole in the fence for his camera's lens to poke through, he/she would have serious charges pressed against him/her.
I wonder, will there be similar charges pressed this time. Or is the fact that they are KLANDESTINI enough for these charges to be dropped, possibly not even considered?:confused:
We are second class citizens in our own country Animus.

A very big thanks to Argo for keeping us informed and updated about this incident.Notice that this happened the day after World Refugee Day.

argo
21stJune2006, 14:34
We are second class citizens in our own country Animus.

A very big thanks to Argo for keeping us informed and updated about this incident.Notice that this happened the day after World Refugee Day.

They get incited by the visiting NGO's who are lobbying to abolish detention for visiting criminals.

dDragonR
21stJune2006, 14:36
They get incited by the visiting NGO's who are lobbying to abolish detention for visiting criminals.

tghid Fr. Joe Borg cacpilhom lil dawn??:mad:

Knight Of St John
21stJune2006, 14:53
14:03

Situation is deteriorating rapidly. A lot of the criminal klandestini escaped.


OMG... shoo

argo
21stJune2006, 15:03
A number of policemen were rushed to the scene and the situation is under control

But what will happen once there are thousands of these savages roaming the streets? They know that they can do as they please because if we try to stop them we will be called "evil racists" by the do-gooders.

MATRIX
21stJune2006, 15:11
Sewwa, lewwel cedejana il- bahar teritorjali, umbad cedejan l'irhula, issa l' ajruport!!
Il- puluzija bla sahha kontrijhom, suldati listess, il-parlament b'idejh marbuta. U il-poplu jxejjer il-bandieri taljani u inglizi.

Min hu konxju tas-sitwazjoni, nifthulu kawza u nimmultawh

Imma temmen??

IMPERIUM
21stJune2006, 15:29
Sewwa, lewwel cedejana il- bahar teritorjali, umbad cedejan l'irhula, issa l' ajruport!!
Il- puluzija bla sahha kontrijhom, suldati listess, il-parlament b'idejh marbuta. U il-poplu jxejjer il-bandieri taljani u inglizi.

Min hu konxju tas-sitwazjoni, nifthulu kawza u nimmultawh

Imma temmen??
Nifthulu kawza u nitfawh 3 snin habs.
Nghajruh, inzebbilhuh, nigdbu fuqu...
Nheggu anke biex joqtluh!

Oh Malta!
Oh Poplu Gahan - Poplu tradut!
Oh Pajjis mifxul, mitluf, tradut.

Das sajf sa inkunu nafu.
Malta: din Art Tweliedjna hix sa tibqa taghna.
Das sajf!

Imperium
0606

etoile noir
21stJune2006, 15:34
what i'm interested in is what sort of media coverage this will get.
let's see what they're hiding from the people, and how much they will disclose - if anything at all.

shame. utter shame.

IMPERIUM
21stJune2006, 15:42
Compare the two:

http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=237412
http://www.maltarightnow.com/adc.asp?module=news&t=a&aid=10435&cid=19

The Media!
Another face of The Enemy!
That Black Octopus with Green Eyes.

Imperium
0606

Eurodip
21stJune2006, 15:57
Issa anke A Company gew 'stood down'?. X'tahseb, Maltipur?

Attila
21stJune2006, 16:05
Compare the two:

http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=237412
http://www.maltarightnow.com/adc.asp?module=news&t=a&aid=10435&cid=19

The Media!
Another face of The Enemy!
That Black Octopus with Green Eyes.

Imperium
0606

MORE CENSORED NON-INFORMATION FROM THE TIMES!
http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=breaking&date=20060621#82

Immigrants escape from Safi centre [21/06/2006]
Some 300 illegal immigrants housed at the Safi centre managed to break out of the centre. A large number of policemen and armed forces personnel were on site. The immigrants were convinced after some time to return.

MATRIX
21stJune2006, 16:15
Nifthulu kawza u nitfawh 3 snin habs.
Nghajruh, inzebbilhuh, nigdbu fuqu...
Nheggu anke biex joqtluh!

Oh Malta!
Oh Poplu Gahan - Poplu tradut!
Oh Pajjis mifxul, mitluf, tradut.

Das sajf sa inkunu nafu.
Malta: din Art Tweliedjna hix sa tibqa taghna.
Das sajf!

Imperium
0606



Il- Poplu warajk Norman

Fis- segritessa tal- vot jkunu jafu dawk il-qatta viljakki

Hehhe Lowell kif jaghid il-malti : "Alla baghtek"

Marco Polo
21stJune2006, 16:47
A number of policemen were rushed to the scene and the situation is under control

But what will happen once there are thousands of these savages roaming the streets? They know that they can do as they please because if we try to stop them we will be called "evil racists" by the do-gooders.

that is when the bastards with full bellies will start giving a shit!

Marco Polo
21stJune2006, 16:50
Il- Poplu warajk Norman

Fis- segritessa tal- vot jkunu jafu dawk il-qatta viljakki

Hehhe Lowell kif jaghid il-malti : "Alla baghtek"

the "poplu" is fat and drinking beer to the world cup tune. the sooner detention is dropped and the rapes and killings build up the sooner people will start to wake up.

sad but true!

praefectus
21stJune2006, 16:51
I wonder if the NGOs will be charged with "incitment to hatred" ... hmmmm.

They get incited by the visiting NGO's who are lobbying to abolish detention for visiting criminals.

Maltese80
21stJune2006, 17:04
Pity these disorders happened now that we are in full WC fever. Few people will note and read about them!

These immigrants must be disciplined.

Marco Polo
21stJune2006, 17:08
Pity these disorders happened now that we are in full WC fever. Few people will note and read about them!

These immigrants must be disciplined.

How would an anr member "discipline" them?

Maltese80
21stJune2006, 17:13
How would an anr member "discipline" them?

Ask an ANR executive member.

I personally would invent ways (like isolation, no food for a day etc) to punish those responsable of leading these "revolts".

Ps. I am not an ANR member.

argo
21stJune2006, 17:26
Madwar 300 immigrant illegali joħorġu miċ-ċentru ta' detenzjoni f'Ħal Safi

Jibqgħu sejrin sa fejn l-Ajruport Internazzjonali

maltarightnow.com • 21/06/2006 15:31:15


Madwar 300 immigrant illegali ħarġu miċ-ċentru tad-detenzjoni ta' Ħal Safi u baqgħu sejrin fi triqthom lejn l-Ajruport Internazzjonali wara li għamlu rewwixta u saħansitra kissru kulma sabu għal idejhom fiċ-ċentru ta' detenzjoni. L-inċident seħħ għall-ħabta tas-1:45pm, meta l-immigranti llegali ħarġu miċ-ċentru u waqfu sal-fence ta' l-Ajruport Internazzjonali.

Hawn huma bdew ikantaw "We want freedom". Is-suldati tal-Forzi Armati ta' Malta (FAM) ċċirkundawhom bil-għan li jieħduhom lura f'posthom. Iżda dan ma kienx biżżejjed. Għalhekk issejħu l-membri mill-Korp tal-Pulizija. Immedjatament waslu fuq il-post madwar 50 Pulizija li aktar tard baqgħu 30 biss.

Matul din l-operazzjoni kienu identifikati r-ring leaders tal-grupp ta' l-immigranti, li kienu arrestati mmedjatament. Jirriżulta li ħadd ma weġġa' f'dan l-inċident u li l-ebda vjolenza ma kienet użata.

Minħabba li s-sitwazzjoni ma setgħetx tiġi lura għan-normal, issejħu wkoll l-Uffiċjali tal-FAM u tal-Pulizija, fosthom il-Brigadier Carmel Vassallo u l-Kummissarju John Rizzo. Sorsi li tkellmu ma' MaltaRightNow.com qalu li xi immigranti llegali ppruvaw saħansitra jħebbu għall-Kummissarju, iżda dawn kienu kkontrollati mmedjatament.

Hu stmat li kien meħtieġ madwar nofsiegħa biex il-Kummissarju rnexxielu jippperswadiehom jidħlu lura fiċ-ċentru ta' detenzjoni.

http://www.maltarightnow.com/adc.asp?module=news&t=a&aid=10435&cid=19

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I posted the text here because these articles have a tendency to disappear after a few days.

So these criminals who according to the Jesuits and the other traitors are educated people some of whom have university degrees and can teach us a lot, broke up everything they could find and tried to assault the police commissioner.

Good.

I hope that the campaign by the NGO's to abolish the detention centres is successful. Only when there is blood on the streets will something drastic be done.

MaltiPur
21stJune2006, 18:01
Issa anke A Company gew 'stood down'?. X'tahseb, Maltipur?

:D La ma rnexxilhomx jodhlu lill'hinn mill-airport fence, ma nistax nikkummenta!

Qed nara li hawn thread diga fuq dan is-suggett, ghax jien ikkummentajt fuq dan l-incident fit-thread 'Illegal Immigrant Landings...' :o

umberto
21stJune2006, 18:27
OMG... shi
Add a T.

Cesare Battisti
21stJune2006, 19:40
Kellhom bzonn xi darba jerga' jtihom li jitilghu jipprotestaw Kastilja forsi dak il-mejjet jistenbah. Wara r-rewwixta ta' Hal Safi sena u nofs ilu kien pixxa tahtu ghax tkellmu tal UNHCR u fetah inkjesta. Nixtieq nara x'jaghmel jekk isib xi hamsin kriminal klandestin ma wiccu!

Cesare Battisti
21stJune2006, 20:09
Ma titwemminx! Fuq il-PBS ghadu kemm semma l-ahbar tal-harba tal-klandestini. Il-PBS wahhal fix-xemx tizreg li kompliet gholliet it-temperament tal-klandestini! Dawn ghal giehna gejjin minn pajjizi mixwijin bix-xemx. Kemm lesti jaqghu f'bassezzi biex jiskuzaw il-hnizrijiet imwettqa minn min qieghed hawn illegalment. Ja tradituri tal-Poplu:mad:

etoile noir
21stJune2006, 20:12
true. i've just seen it.
they started with a close up of barbed wire, and ended with same.

jahasra hux .... bil barbed wire, minghajr air conditioning .....

Animus
21stJune2006, 20:23
true. i've just seen it.
they started with a close up of barbed wire, and ended with same.

jahasra hux .... bil barbed wire, minghajr air conditioning .....


....u bit-taxxi taghna fil but :mad:

Merill
21stJune2006, 20:23
It's outrageous how these people lack in gratitude. They came here illegally and notwithstanding that they are being given free lodging and free food.

All that without prejudice to the fact that it is not their right to be here.

It irks me that they expect it to be a right to be welcomed.

Heck once friends of mine were fishing on yacht and got somewhat close to North Africa, unintentionally, they didn't even realise. Sure they got a warm welcome. In the shape of searing hot warning shots from patrol boats!

Heaven knows what would have happened had they not proceeded gas-down in their opposite direction! Or what would have happened had they been drowning or with stationary engines... (like sic the clandestines who get hauled up here).

Animus
21stJune2006, 20:28
Quoting myself from a thread I posted in earlier:

As far as I know, they have water, shelter, a home, they are being given a future through experience - even if their employers are exploiting them, they don't have to run, there aren't any landmines for them to step or sleep on, nobody's running after them - its more likely for them to run after someone like they did with that Japanese guy, and they can easily contact their families via mobile phone so the case of finding their families is irrelevant.
Moreover they are also given phone cards, and the government allows them to do nothing and still get paid!

Can these people really be selfish enough to ask for more from the Maltese population? Or is shame something they never learnt back home? In that case the poem should be changed to:

I hope I learn some manners
I hope I can learn the virtue of gratitude
I hope I can learn to wash
I hope I can find another country to live off
I hope I will remain unemployed so that the government will continue to pay my bills and cater for my every need
I hope they don't find out I'm bluffing
I hope they don't track my criminal record down
I hope I'll find lots of willing women to choose from in order to acquire a european citizenship
I hope that one day this beautiful country will become mine


Apparently this is the only way Gonzi will be happy. After they totally take us over and make everything their own.

Merill
21stJune2006, 20:35
Apparently this is the only way Gonzi will be happy. After they totally take us over and make everything their own.

The "established" politicians do not care for Malta nor for their inhabitants. I'm including politicians from BOTH political parties.

What they take care of is how much money is entering their pockets.

Ma jahsbux f'uliedna imma f'uliedhom. Because what they amass will be left in legacy to them.

Animus
21stJune2006, 20:40
The "established" politicians do not care for Malta nor for their inhabitants. I'm including politicians from BOTH political parties.

What they take care of is how much money is entering their pockets.

Ma jahsbux f'uliedna imma f'uliedhom. Because what they amass will be left in legacy to them.


Of course, once they inherit all the dosh they can easily migrate to any other country and live clandestine-free, whilst others, who because of the government abuse we are experiencing now might not be so fortunate as to have enough finances to emigrate.

Mhux hekk ux 'I'm all right fuck you jack' ... dik hi l-mentalita ta dan il-gvern u l-hbieb tieghu. Qad ghagina ghand il furnar ma jaghfguha daqshekk!

4000 votes
21stJune2006, 21:13
We need 4000 votes in each district.

You will have the strongest government Malta has ever seen.

S. One vision,one solution.

Eurodip
21stJune2006, 21:52
Kellhom bzonn xi darba jerga' jtihom li jitilghu jipprotestaw Kastilja forsi dak il-mejjet jistenbah. Wara r-rewwixta ta' Hal Safi sena u nofs ilu kien pixxa tahtu ghax tkellmu tal UNHCR u fetah inkjesta. Nixtieq nara x'jaghmel jekk isib xi hamsin kriminal klandestin ma wiccu!

Heqq bhalissa hemm familja tipprotesta taht it-twieqi tad-Depot. U hadd m'hu jinkedd wisq. Jigifieri nahseb kieku jigri l-istess haga f'Kastilja, it's business as usual. Wow, kemm jien kuntent li nghix Malta...

MATRIX
21stJune2006, 22:23
Madwar 300 immigrant illegali joħorġu miċ-ċentru ta' detenzjoni f'Ħal Safi.............................................................................................

..................................
xi immigranti llegali ppruvaw saħansitra jħebbu għall-Kummissarju, iżda dawn kienu kkontrollati mmedjatament.

Hu stmat li kien meħtieġ madwar nofsiegħa biex il-Kummissarju rnexxielu jippperswadiehom jidħlu lura fiċ-ċentru ta' detenzjoni. ......................................


xi immigranti llegali ppruvaw saħansitra jħebbu għall-Kummissarju
Ha naraw jresquhomx il-qorti b'urgenza ghada!!

il-Kummissarju rnexxielu jippperswadiehom jidħlu lura fiċ-ċentru.

Issa ahjar jipperswadiehom!! Sa fejn naf jien il- ligi taghid li kotra ta' aktar minn 9 min nies trid permess minn ghand il-Kummisarju.
Liema ligi qed tosserva il- Pupuzija meta tikonfrota lill dawn il-kriminali??
Mela anke il-kummisarju pupu?

Imma kif??

NormanSoldier
22ndJune2006, 00:29
The usual method applied by the Commissioner to stop the uprising is to send some UNARMED police to parley with them.This took 30 mins today for example.It is like begging them to stop it and be nice.

It is a very dangerous situation for the police force because they are going in a crocodile farm with just their bare hands.The police force and army could not act on their own initiative because their hands are tied to their backs.They put their lives at risk for us all and what do they get in return?The usual bullshit by the media that they are treating the illegals in an unhuman way.

These illegals are like a spoiled brat.The brat cries and the parents give him what he desires - hence spoil him.And if he wants something he cries again and so on.This is what the high officials are doing to the illegals.Spoiling them!

The commissioner is responsibile for all this!But perphaps he would be happy with the extra cash he is going to receive from the European Union because of the immigration problem.He must be ashamed risking the lives of the officers like this!

dust commander
22ndJune2006, 02:55
Hi everyone, I live in Canada, born in Malta. I've been visiting this site for a few months, there are some interesting threads and some not so interesting BUT after every escapade by your unwanted guests all I read is whining and bitching, maybe this maybe that blah blah ....WHAT ACTION ARE YOU TAKING BESIDES SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THE PC??? I read where the ANR had a demo and 200 people attended and the only purpose it served was to drive a wedge between ANR and IE/VM.This tells me that the general public doesn't know what they're in for or they don't give a sh.. There's a lack of leadership on this issue so I suggest that ANR appoint Solomone and VM appoint Arlette Baldacchino to try and come to a consensus with regards to who will lead the right in the fight. With all due respect to Mr. Lowell I don't think he can unite the right. No offence meant to anybody. Good luck.;)

MATRIX
22ndJune2006, 08:33
Hi everyone, I live in Canada, born in Malta. I've been visiting this site for a few months, there are some interesting threads and some not so interesting BUT after every escapade by your unwanted guests all I read is whining and bitching, maybe this maybe that blah blah ....WHAT ACTION ARE YOU TAKING BESIDES SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THE PC??? I read where the ANR had a demo and 200 people attended and the only purpose it served was to drive a wedge between ANR and IE/VM.This tells me that the general public doesn't know what they're in for or they don't give a sh.. There's a lack of leadership on this issue so I suggest that ANR appoint Solomone and VM appoint Arlette Baldacchino to try and come to a consensus with regards to who will lead the right in the fight. With all due respect to Mr. Lowell I don't think he can unite the right. No offence meant to anybody. Good luck.;)
Welcome,

please do not underestimate the importance of the contribution of the people contributing on this website. The moderators, for a start, behind this are doing a marvellous job, and it is quite a lot of dedication and work. With the contribution of the peole and the moderators behind this website, it was possible for the information to reach you.

People must hit the streets I agree, but the limitless resources of the government, manipulation of the media, army and police aiding the decisions of the government, courts being used against us, foreign interest against us, deviation of attention of the people by the means of international sport events, concerts by famous artists in our country, church condemning our beliefs etc.. are being used to keep this movement at bay.

Sitting behind the PC is not adequate for the situation, i agree, but at least it is happening, anyone who feels that more can be done can take initiative and work on his accord, Thus another cluster of resistance will be created, The Maltese Canadians can for example raise funds for this movement.

This is an international situation and we have only had it for about 2 years. If people from other countries have resisted as much as we have are in such a short time, this refugee crises would not exist.

These people are called illegal immigrants, I call them illegal holiday makers. They are not here to migrate. Their days are counted!!

Thanks for your support.

Well done moderators and administrators your work is vital

umberto
22ndJune2006, 08:55
i agree with everything 'dust commander' said, except for the Norman Lowell bit.

I still think that a more down to earth Norman Lowell would still be a good leader for the nationalistic and pan-european cause.

But in general, so far, all is leaving much to be desired, organisational and direction wise.

We had so far everything that would make a people politically rebel.

wiking
22ndJune2006, 13:08
I agree perfectly with Umberto.

Sepp44
22ndJune2006, 13:28
[quote]i agree with everything 'dust commander' said, except for the Norman Lowell bit.
Dustcommander could donate to VM as do our other canadian and American members.

I still think that a more down to earth Norman Lowell would still be a good leader for the nationalistic and pan-european cause.

Indeed he would.

But in general, so far, all is leaving much to be desired, organisational and direction wise.
We could do an 'ANR':rolleyes:

We had so far everything that would make a people politically rebel.

Everything except the people Umberto.Maltese folk will respond when it is too late.On reflection,Maltese are no different than their european counter parts.As long as their private little worlds are not invaded and their standards of living do not drop, they couldn't give a fig about the country they live in.By nature,people are sheep.The 'minority' of doers, activists in a nation are the shakers and makers of nations.It is always down to the few.
Nations as they stand today took hundreds of years to become what they are today.It was always the minority thinkers,doers that created these states.The majority people are selfish sheep.
When the time has passed of no return,let them wallow in their selfishness and pity.

As the saying goes,'You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink'.
If dustcommander wishes to 'contribute ' from afar,I will be more than happy to see a donation other than "spending a lot of time on a PC".Actions speak louder than words.

MATRIX
22ndJune2006, 17:31
[quote=umberto]
Dustcommander could donate to VM as do our other canadian and American members.


Indeed he would.


We could do an 'ANR':rolleyes:



Everything except the people Umberto.Maltese folk will respond when it is too late.On reflection,Maltese are no different than their european counter parts.As long as their private little worlds are not invaded and their standards of living do not drop, they couldn't give a fig about the country they live in.By nature,people are sheep.The 'minority' of doers, activists in a nation are the shakers and makers of nations.It is always down to the few.
Nations as they stand today took hundreds of years to become what they are today.It was always the minority thinkers,doers that created these states.The majority people are selfish sheep.
When the time has passed of no return,let them wallow in their selfishness and pity.

As the saying goes,'You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink'.
If dustcommander wishes to 'contribute ' from afar,I will be more than happy to see a donation other than "spending a lot of time on a PC".Actions speak louder than words.

Nice one sepp

Marco Polo
22ndJune2006, 22:02
i agree with everything 'dust commander' said, except for the Norman Lowell bit.

I still think that a more down to earth Norman Lowell would still be a good leader for the nationalistic and pan-european cause.

But in general, so far, all is leaving much to be desired, organisational and direction wise.

We had so far everything that would make a people politically rebel.

too fucking right. mur ghidlu!

x'zobb hu octopus with green eyes?

ghala zobbi min-"sky-high city".

jien mghandix grieden fid-dranagg.

iz-zabbab twaqali id-dar ghax mhux antik.

zeza, ghadili il-birra ghax dal-mignun bl-istika qed iparla fil-vojt......u jitkellem tajjeb tant. x' hela!

Marco Polo
22ndJune2006, 22:05
[quote=umberto]

Everything except the people Umberto.Maltese folk will respond when it is too late.On reflection,Maltese are no different than their european counter parts.As long as their private little worlds are not invaded and their standards of living do not drop, they couldn't give a fig about the country they live in.By nature,people are sheep.The 'minority' of doers, activists in a nation are the shakers and makers of nations.It is always down to the few.
Nations as they stand today took hundreds of years to become what they are today.It was always the minority thinkers,doers that created these states.The majority people are selfish sheep.
When the time has passed of no return,let them wallow in their selfishness and pity.

As the saying goes,'You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink'.
If dustcommander wishes to 'contribute ' from afar,I will be more than happy to see a donation other than "spending a lot of time on a PC".Actions speak louder than words.

bloody well said. from the uk to vladivostok, from helsinki to malta, europeans have one thing in common:

fat, decadent and selfish

it is our job to kick them into shape.

Maltese80
22ndJune2006, 22:06
too fucking right. mur ghidlu!

x'zobb hu octopus with green eyes?

ghala zobbi min-"sky-high city".

jien mghandix grieden fid-dranagg.

iz-zabbab twaqali id-dar ghax mhux antik.

zeza, ghadili il-birra ghax dal-mignun bl-istika qed iparla fil-vojt......u jitkellem tajjeb tant. x' hela!

The City in a tower idea is good environmentally-wise, in fact there is such a project in Tokyo, Japan.

What is not realistic is this rotating thing.

MATRIX
22ndJune2006, 22:14
too fucking right. mur ghidlu!

x'zobb hu octopus with green eyes?

ghala zobbi min-"sky-high city".

jien mghandix grieden fid-dranagg.

iz-zabbab twaqali id-dar ghax mhux antik.

zeza, ghadili il-birra ghax dal-mignun bl-istika qed iparla fil-vojt......u jitkellem tajjeb tant. x' hela!

il-ostja kif qabzitlek Marco.:eek:

tinharaq hux??:mad:

Marco Polo
22ndJune2006, 22:41
The City in a tower idea is good environmentally-wise, in fact there is such a project in Tokyo, Japan.

What is not realistic is this rotating thing.

stop taking the piss.

now squirm under a rock and go and post my above response on another forum cris. say something like "marco polo attacks emperor lowell"

Marco Polo
22ndJune2006, 22:43
il-ostja kif qabzitlek Marco.:eek:

tinharaq hux??:mad:

no, im being brutally honest instead of totally loyal for once.

norman can take it or leave it. i wasted enough spit already.

etoile noir
22ndJune2006, 22:48
stop taking the piss.

now squirm under a rock and go and post my above response on another forum cris. say something like "marco polo attacks emperor lowell"

and whilst you're at it dont forget to spice it up with "split within vivamalta" or something along those lines. you have to make it a bit juicy to compete with the gods and the never ending vm threads he opens :rolleyes:

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 01:28
and whilst you're at it dont forget to spice it up with "split within vivamalta" or something along those lines. you have to make it a bit juicy to compete with the gods and the never ending vm threads he opens :rolleyes:

and whilst you're at it,tell them about that foreign twat sepp44 who calls you names and generally gives you a hard time because you're a big mouth agitator

NormanSoldier
23rdJune2006, 02:00
Maltese80 is Cristoforo?I'm speechless.Why sign in under a different username?

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 02:13
Maltese80 is Cristoforo?I'm speechless.Why sign in under a different username?

Wot ! you didn't know?He thinks we only just figured him out.If he would have stuck to posting sensibley he could have stayed,rep points and all.Like dprk ,he cant help himself and he has to start shit stirring.Like dprk,he can't help himself.Thinks he's so clever he does.Fool.Now he cries....once again on another forum how I hound him here.As I said somewhere else on the forum.Rebel without a clue or a cause for that matter.Just shitstirring.Fucking retard:mad:

NormanSoldier
23rdJune2006, 02:15
He said in an earlier post that he is not an ANR member.Why does he deny ANR like that?I hope he can post here because it is unfair accusing him and not being able to reply.We had quite an interesting discussion on the ANR forum anyway.

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 02:22
He said in an earlier post that he is not an ANR member.Why does he deny ANR like that?I hope he can post here because it is unfair accusing him and not being able to reply.We had quite an interesting discussion on the ANR forum anyway.

He is under moderation.He has caused enough trouble here with his vileness.As for replying,he does that on other forums.He calls VM members on other forums where they are not members.He has two registered names here.

NormanSoldier
23rdJune2006, 02:26
He has lost face with this backstabbing.He is no more to me.

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 09:10
Maltese80 is Cristoforo?I'm speechless.Why sign in under a different username?

his excuse is that he was harrased under cristoforo. he gets harrased because he is a trouble maker and that is how i discovered maltese80 is cristoforo.

do not think that many of these pro-anr folk are here for any other purpose than to cause trouble. notice how they suddenly shut up when the hitler dinner came to light?

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 09:47
stop taking the piss.

now squirm under a rock and go and post my above response on another forum cris. say something like "marco polo attacks emperor lowell"

For once I tried to find a good point in Lowell's ideas. Even when I offer an olive branch I get attacked.

However I must say I liked your post. Prosit and I am not being ironic.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 09:50
and whilst you're at it,tell them about that foreign twat sepp44 who calls you names and generally gives you a hard time because you're a big mouth agitator

You cannot do political mistakes and then blame me for using them to defend the faction I most sympathise with Sepp.

For your information, I am trying to limit my attack on you to what I consider honourable because as you know, I never exceed certain limits.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 09:53
Maltese80 is Cristoforo?I'm speechless.Why sign in under a different username?

2 reasons, the first I cannot say, the second was that I was under constant attack from Marco and Sepp and so I decided to use a different username to discuss without being attacked.

All this is explained on the other forum and I use the other forum only because on this one I am not free to say what I want.

For further clarifications, just email me.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 09:54
He is under moderation.He has caused enough trouble here with his vileness.As for replying,he does that on other forums.He calls VM members on other forums where they are not members.He has two registered names here.

You have a username on X.com as far as I know.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 09:55
his excuse is that he was harrased under cristoforo. he gets harrased because he is a trouble maker and that is how i discovered maltese80 is cristoforo.

do not think that many of these pro-anr folk are here for any other purpose than to cause trouble. notice how they suddenly shut up when the hitler dinner came to light?

If for you trouble-making = not agreeing with Lowell's idea then yes I am a trouble-maker.

If for you trouble-making = supporting ANR then yes I am a trouble-maker.

Btw, I am not (anymore) an ANR member

MATRIX
23rdJune2006, 12:34
I do not know the history between you lot, BUT please please analyse the situation and try not to react, I understand it is difficult not to react sometime. Malta is in grave danger arguments between us will not help .

DO IT FOR MALTA!

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 12:44
For once I tried to find a good point in Lowell's ideas. Even when I offer an olive branch I get attacked.

However I must say I liked your post. Prosit and I am not being ironic.

first of all the word is sarcastic and not ironic.

most of what you write is to stir trouble. proper criticism of norman and us is more than welcome but shit stirring the way you do is not.

trying to play the innocent angel doesnt wash.

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 12:51
You cannot do political mistakes and then blame me for using them to defend the faction I most sympathise with Sepp.

For your information, I am trying to limit my attack on you to what I consider honourable because as you know, I never exceed certain limits.
and then you go and shit stir on x.com.

for your info sepp tried his best to get as many vm members and his workmates to attend the anr march and as very angry about the bad attendence. that is why he snapped. you bring out that character in him as you seem to represent all that is bad in us maltese.

sepp knows exactly what malta is facing and puts his money where his mouth is. he does not shit stir on a forum and simply tells it as he sees things. yesterday i posted on the tourism industry here and was very critical of maltese but it means nothing. if we can not take criticism we will get nowhere. many of the attributes he described fit you perfectly, myself too.

all in all sepp i pissed off at "full belly syndrome". you should hear him attack brits and germans!

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 12:53
2 reasons, the first I cannot say, the second was that I was under constant attack from Marco and Sepp and so I decided to use a different username to discuss without being attacked.

All this is explained on the other forum and I use the other forum only because on this one I am not free to say what I want.

For further clarifications, just email me.

you were under attack for shit stirring and nothing else. now many here would like me to boot out any leftists but i do not as they say they are an enemy. you do not and work via subversive tactics ie: shit stirring.

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 12:56
You have a username on X.com as far as I know.

but i asked him not to post there.

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 13:00
If for you trouble-making = not agreeing with Lowell's idea then yes I am a trouble-maker.

If for you trouble-making = supporting ANR then yes I am a trouble-maker.

Btw, I am not (anymore) an ANR member

i disagree with much of normans outlook but in the end i know he is right in most issues on the esoteric level. my main problem is that he doesnt come down from there and speak to the masses but wants to play politician.

the way you speak is just to cause trouble. one only has to compare your posts here with those on other fora to spot it.

support anr as much as you like but do not undermine us with your shit stirring. dont try playing innocent.

i am sure anr will miss your lm2 a year.......

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 13:02
[QUOTE] For your information, I am trying to limit my attack on you to what I consider honourable because as you know,


How noble of you.I marked your cards a long time ago when i read your 'contributions' on stirpes attacking NL.You are a jackal,a bone picker.A scavenging dog that cannot make the kill for himself.You lack moral fibre and backbone.You are devious and conniving.
You got the picture yet?I do not like you :rolleyes::D:mad:



I never exceed certain limits

Now what was I expecting coming from the gob of a 'moderate' ?You are a pathetic snivelling little twat.Is my languge extreme enough for you?Do I fill all your descriptions on an extremist?You would test the patience of a saint.:mad:

ps.don't forget to do some cut and pastes so you can show members on other fora how much I despise you.

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 13:02
also i am sorry for not approving your posts before but i did not see them. i am currently using another pc and with the screen so bad i cant notice the shading difference between the light blue of unapproved posts and the lighter blue of normal posts. i only noticed as letty had told me about them!!

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 13:04
you were under attack for shit stirring and nothing else. now many here would like me to boot out any leftists but i do not as they say they are an enemy. you do not and work via subversive tactics ie: shit stirring.

Subversive tactics when I always declared my sympathies with ANR from its inception? I used a different nick (which ok was not a honourable move) just to avoid the continous attacks here.

If you followed my posts on the other forums, you know I made my positions very clear.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 13:07
[quote=Maltese80]


How noble of you.I marked your cards a long time ago when i read your 'contributions' on stirpes attacking NL.You are a jackal,a bone picker.A scavenging dog that cannot make the kill for himself.You lack moral fibre and backbone.You are devious and conniving.
You got the picture yet?I do not like you :rolleyes::D:mad:





Now what was I expecting coming from the gob of a 'moderate' ?You are a pathetic snivelling little twat.Is my languge extreme enough for you?Do I fill all your descriptions on an extremist?You would test the patience of a saint.:mad:

ps.don't forget to do some cut and pastes so you can show members on other fora how much I despise you.

Now you made me smile man. You don't like me. I don't like you. Fair enough. We end it here?

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 13:10
[QUOTE]2 reasons, the first I cannot say,

Spit it out wanker.The suspense is killing me.

the second was that I was under constant attack from Marco and Sepp and so I decided to use a different username to discuss without being attacked.

Wrong! If you had kept on posting without malice you would have been ok.But oh no.You couldn't but help to show your 'political opposition' to Lowell.Are you real?You are nothing more than a spoiled brat that dosn't know when to button it.I am not your mother and you will not be allowed to stamp your feet on this forum.

All this is explained on the other forum and I use the other forum only because on this one I am not free to say what I want.


Ha ha ha ha .Damned right you are not allowed to say what you want on this forum.Not if I have anything to do with it.You give the word 'Rat' a new dimension.


For further clarifications, just email me.

A typical coward.Spit it out dog:mad:.Enough of your shitstirring.

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 13:14
You have a username on X.com as far as I know.

And what do you know revealer of secrets, gossip whore?I belong here and not on x.com.Take the hint,you are not wanted here.In fact,I DONT THINK YOU ARE WANTED ANYWHERE! A lot of folk are too polite to say what they think of you.I am not.

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 13:19
but i asked him not to post there.

I didn't

Marco Polo
23rdJune2006, 13:30
Subversive tactics when I always declared my sympathies with ANR from its inception? I used a different nick (which ok was not a honourable move) just to avoid the continous attacks here.

If you followed my posts on the other forums, you know I made my positions very clear.

not the way you write. you play the poor little innocent patriot but it is far from the truth.


if you disagree with nl or an argument then argue it. that is why the forum exists!!

Sepp44
23rdJune2006, 13:30
[quote=Sepp44]

Now you made me smile man. You don't like me. I don't like you. Fair enough. We end it here?

So it finally sunk into your thick skull.Even I approve your whinging lest you cry,as you do, on other fora about you being under moderation and not allowed to speak, and you don't make me smile.I fucking hate yer.You gobshite.

One thing I learned about you cristoforo in the short time that i have had the displeasure of knowing your miserable 'cyber character'.You are persistent and consistent in your shitstirring.
Will it end here?I don't think so.To me you are public enemy no.1.You even managed to knock DPRK of his pedestal.Now aint that something.

I will be looking out for you at all times.You may sneak in under another user name, but I will be hunting you down like the rat you are.

Now go cry on another forum.Let them deal with your bitching and whining.

Maltese80
23rdJune2006, 15:24
Thanks for the compliments Sepp. You really boosted my self confidence. Now should we consider this thing dead or shall I be subjected to another whole list of insults?

Ps. I know it pisses you off that I don't insult you back but really, it's not in my character to be like that.