Shariah TV on UK National TV

[patriaomuerte]

Shariah TV Channel 4 (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvs&id=166005000&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&.intl=uk) Wed Apr 06 12:10 AM
1 (60 min., 2004, United Kingdom, Religion)
In a world where young British Muslims are often disillusioned about who they are and where they belong, Shariah TV focuses on what it means to be young, British and Muslim. Torn between their national, religious and cultural identity, many young British Muslims are questioning who they should turn to and who they can trust.

Shariah TV looks at the issues and provides guidance in all aspects of their lives in Britain. A panel of prominent Islamic scholars answers questions from a studio audience of young British Muslims and offers an interpretation of Islamic law: Shariah.

Director: Louise Capell. Production: CTVC

Future Episodes:

Shariah TV (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=169319958&cf=0&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&chspid=166005000&chname=Channel+4&title=Shariah+TV&normalized=Shariah+TV&progutn=1112858100&.intl=uk) Thu Apr 07 12:15 AM
Shariah TV (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=169321627&cf=0&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&chspid=166005000&chname=Channel+4&title=Shariah+TV&normalized=Shariah+TV&progutn=1112944200&.intl=uk) Fri Apr 08 12:10 AM

[PERICLES]

I hope that this is not the same Sharia practised in Saudi Arabia and Northern Nigeria? If the answer is YES it should be OUT-LAWED!!!

[patriaomuerte]

Il-bierah xghalt it television u tfajtu fuq channel 4. U bdejt nara dan il-programm Shariah TV. Bqajt iccassat!

Ghidt kif jista jkun go l-ingliterra on public tv tista tara programm hekk. Channel 4 huwa public channel ghax biex narawh irridu nhalsu £120 fis sena tv licence.

Il-programm kien talk show tajjeb. Dak li ntqal kien jghamel sens. N-nies kienu intelegenti hafna. Dan il-programm kien jghamel hafna sens kieku intwera l iran jew egittu imma m hux l-ingliterra.

L-ingilterra pajjiz li ghandha history qawwija ta kristjanezmu (COE, protestanti, catholics, anglicans .. and orange order) u m hux ta musulmani.

Dawn bdew jitkellmu jekk fl ingilterra ghandux jsir partit musulman. Ovjament l imam li kien fil panel ma qabilx ghax qal li jekk isir partit musulman igibu 3% tal voti biss. Imma qabel li kanditati musulmani ghandhom johorgu mal-partiti kbar.

Il-haga tal-biza kienet li meta l maggoranza ta dawn bdew jitkellmu qatt ma referew ruhom bhala inglizi imma bhala barranin. Issa dawn huma nies li ilhom joqghodu hafna go l ingilterra.

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F' Malta diga grat xi haga simili taht ghajnejna.

Fl ahhar elezjoni ta MEP hareg kandidat ta origini afrikana. Vera kien ta cittadinanza maltija, imma xejn aktar.

Dan kien ilu malta numru ammont ta snin u ma setax jitkellem bil-malti imma bl-ingliz biss.

Fil-futur il gvern jgahti cittadinanza lil-aktar afrikani. Afrikani li jingabru qaqocca go l ewwel belt li jsibu. Il-prezz tal-propjeta fil vicinanzi taqa u mbghad jtellghu l-ewwel sindku afrikan.

Minn hemm hadd ma jwaqqafhom. Tant ikun hawn, li anka ministru ta origini afrikana jkun hemm. Minn hemm tista tobsor x jigri.

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Malta pajjiz zghir, biex nigu minoranza ma rridu xejn. Noqghodu attenti!

[patriaomuerte]

i dont know but it will start again in 15 minutes. I will watch it again maybe i will become a muslim!

I hope that this is not the same Sharia practised in Saudi Arabia and Northern Nigeria? If the answer is YES it should be OUT-LAWED!!!

[etoile noir]

Il-bierah xghalt it television u tfajtu fuq channel 4. U bdejt nara dan il-programm Shariah TV. Bqajt iccassat!

ghandek ragun.

Ghidt kif jista jkun go l-ingliterra on public tv tista tara programm hekk. Channel 4 huwa public channel ghax biex narawh irridu nhalsu £120 fis sena tv licence.

ghas-semplici raguni li bhal ma thallas £120 fis-sena int, hemm mijiet ta eluf ta' musulmani inglizi li jhallsu l-istess ammont allura jippretendu l-istess drittijiet bhal kull ingliz iehor.

Il-programm kien talk show tajjeb. Dak li ntqal kien jghamel sens. N-nies kienu intelegenti hafna. Dan il-programm kien jghamel hafna sens kieku intwera l iran jew egittu imma m hux l-ingliterra.

"talk show tajjeb", insomma Patria, opinjoni ..... hawn fuq il-cable nistghu naraw channel jismu MBC [middle east broadcasting xi haga hekk ...] frankament jien idejjaqni hafna u ma nara xejn tajjeb jew intelligenti. kull ma jaghmlu hu li jgibu hanfa nisa ewropej li qalbu r-religjon u saru musulmani, u qisom sabu l-genna fl-art. tismaghhom jitkellmu tghid - ara dawn xi gmiel ta hajja, kollox ilellex ghax saru musulmani .... ehe mur ara jekk jghidu il-verita! kieku r-ragel laqqas ihallihom johorgu mid-dar!

u dan kollu jghiduh b'wicchom kwazi kollu mghotti u mgezwrin f-ghaxar metri drapp

L-ingilterra pajjiz li ghandha history qawwija ta kristjanezmu (COE, protestanti, catholics, anglicans .. and orange order) u m hux ta musulmani.

veru, imma waqt li l-kristjanezmu huwa religjon passiv, l-islam huwa aggressiv. dik hija d-differenza. u ghalhekk dawn jaghmlu l-arja

Dawn bdew jitkellmu jekk fl ingilterra ghandux jsir partit musulman. Ovjament l imam li kien fil panel ma qabilx ghax qal li jekk isir partit musulman igibu 3% tal voti biss. Imma qabel li kanditati musulmani ghandhom johorgu mal-partiti kbar.

u din hija l-akbar problema Patria. il-problema hi li waqt li l-Inglizi fil-maggoranza kbira taghhom se joqghodu d-dar waqt l-elezzjoni, u lanqas biss johorgu jovvotaw, dawn l-inglizi godda, il-musulmani, mux talli johorgu jivvotaw, issa jridu jivvotaw mhux ghal xi musulman li johrog ma wiehed mil partiti gia stabiliti. Le. issa iridu wkoll partit taghom! ara x'vilta! u l-akbar vilta hu li fi zmien qasir jithallew. U bil proporzjon ta' musulmani li hemm l-ingliterra, jispiccaw jtellaw aktar u aktar membri musulmani, u biz-zmien minflok ikollom l-Old Bailey, juzaw trafalgar square biex jaqtaw id ta' xi halliel grazzi ghax-Sharia Law.

ifirhu nies ghax ghandna id-diversita. ifirhu bis-sahha fid-diversita. sahha taghhom imma mhux taghna. ahna nispicaw fix-xejn waqt li huma jrisu dawk li jikkmandawna. ergajna fi zmien il jasar. imma did-darba mux b'xi glieda aggressiva, imma bil passivita u l-injoranza grassa ta' hafna nies hekk imsejjha intelligenti u "mohhom miftuh". tant miftuh mohhom, li fil-berah tieghu, tilfu s-sens kommun.

F' Malta diga grat xi haga simili taht ghajnejna.

f'Malta ghad ghandna cans li nwaqqfu din id-degenerazzjoni ta' pajjizna.

Se naghmlu xi haga, jew se naghmlu bhal l-inglizi, nibqghu passivi u nhallu t-tfal taghna jsiru skjavi ta' l-injoranza ta' missierijiethom?

[umberto]

Ilna xi madwar erba snin insaqsu din il-mistoqsija nahseb.

Tittamax. Pero f'Malta jaf ma jigrix hekk, sempliciment by chance imma, mhux ghax hawn xi haga organizzata. Fortunatament Malta ma toffrix opportunitajiet ghal musulmani u l-immigranti ohra daqs il-UK.

L-organizazjoni realistika u l-Malti huma xi haga kontraditorja.

Political will minn min imexxi l-pajjiz ma hemmx, u orginazizajoni leminija bil-harsien ta' l-identita bhala ghan principali hawn malta li twerwer lil min imexxi sempliciment 'cannot take off'.
Irridu neqilbu kollox qabel il-waqt.

U jekk sa ssemmu ta' Ta Sliema, jien ma nafx, imma la hallejnihom jidhlu trid thallihom jaduraw lil min irridu, sakemm qed issir fil-privat u bla storbju. Tifmunix hazin, mhux niehu gost narhom, imma ma tistax izzommhom. L-ghan la hu assimilazjoni (impossibli) u lanqas imperium style voluntary reptriations (would be too late). L-ghan huwa tarka minn issa.

[Marco Polo]

note: Channel 4 is not paid for by public funds as it is a private company. You are conned out of your £120 to pay for the BBC channels. At least you don't have ads on the BBC. Here we pay the licence but still have ads on TVM!

As for Shariah TV; Doesn't suprise me at all!

[EuropeanHybrid]

I hope that this is not the same Sharia practised in Saudi Arabia and Northern Nigeria? If the answer is YES it should be OUT-LAWED!!!
It MUST be out-lawed in ANY CASE.

[Cristoforo]

As Umberto said, the problem is that they allowed them to settle in the UK. Of course, once you allow immigrants in a free country, one cannot stop them from doing whatever they want as long as it's legal.

[EuropeanHybrid]

Granted: It might be too late for voluntary re-patriations. By what about (Imperivm-style) in-voluntary re-patriations?

[Cristoforo]

Granted: It might be too late for voluntary re-patriations. By what about (Imperivm-style) in-voluntary re-patriations?

There are too many now and some of them have been in Europe for 2/3 generations. I doubt one can realistically suggest deportation of 2/3 generation immigrants who are legal. What one can realistically propose is the immediate stop of immigration flow, re-patriation of illegal immigrants and deportation of criminals (such as terrorists and those involved in organised crime).

[Marco Polo]

The BNP advocate actually paying immigrants to leave the country. I don't know how it would work in practice. Who would want to return to a probable hell-hole?

[Gladiator]

Wasn't this suggested by Enoch Powell in 1968. Do you think that it will work now? It's too late. 2/3 generations can't go back to a land and culture they can't understand, inspite of children born in the UK are brainwashed and handed down their culture by their parents and grandparents.

I saw young girls still wearing Saris with a British accent at the sub-way. 1992. In London.
I feel sorry for these young people. I had seen them when I was in Britain in 1973.

I see it here in Canada too. They suffer from an identity crisis:mad: One thing can be done, as for Muslms a white christain government can give them an option. You either renounce your religion and customs if you want, work, social welfare education, etc. etc. and learn the language well, history and traditions of the locals. If they fail such tests then send back with a gun to their heads!

[patriaomuerte]

Yesterday night i was watching Shariah TV and i got a bit frustrated.

Under the Shariah Law women cannot handshake with a man who is not their husband or a blood relative.

Most of the people on the panel where british muslims which have emigrated from other countries like pakistan, egypt or any other muslim country.

They where saying that some westerns (referring to pure english blood citizens who are not muslims) disrispected them when they shook their hands with them. They said that westerns should start and learn about other peoples cultures and abide by them.

If in europe you go and shake your hand with someone and this person doesnt return the shake, then you also feel offended.

What these immigrant muslims cannot understand is that they are hosts to britain and they should adopt to the english customs and not the english adopt their customs.

If i go to pakistan, i will have to learn about their culture first. There i will not shake hands with women, because that is their culture and should be accepted.

But here in england, No way! Our western salute, using the handshake has nothing sexual in it. Its just another way to say hello. Even a kiss on both cheeks has nothing sexual in it, let alone a handshake. So the muslims have to change their ways when they are in europe. If they dont like it they should go to pakistan where nobody would offend them.

The immam then said, that there are some exeption to this rule (about time you figure it out immam!). He said if for example he is in a line and everybody is shaking hands with the queen he will also have to shake hands. Because for him its impossible at that instant to explain to the queen that this is against his religion.

The Shariah law in my opinion is too uptight. Everything is so complicated. The Shariah law doesnt mix well with european cultures. It is too different. Because of this muslim laws there is a big tendency that two cultures clash. Also this is another reason why muslims and non-muslims dont mix alot when they are in the same city or village.

If the Jesuit "Refuse" Service think that by accepting more people they will be increasing the number of christians in the world they are doing a grave misake. Muslims comming from around the world beleive that Europeans are a decadant society. They will not mix with them, unless they want citizinshep. Then they will close down in a small group and change all that is around them!



Shariah TV Channel 4 (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvs&id=166005000&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&.intl=uk) Wed Apr 06 12:10 AM
1 (60 min., 2004, United Kingdom, Religion)
In a world where young British Muslims are often disillusioned about who they are and where they belong, Shariah TV focuses on what it means to be young, British and Muslim. Torn between their national, religious and cultural identity, many young British Muslims are questioning who they should turn to and who they can trust.

Shariah TV looks at the issues and provides guidance in all aspects of their lives in Britain. A panel of prominent Islamic scholars answers questions from a studio audience of young British Muslims and offers an interpretation of Islamic law: Shariah.

Director: Louise Capell. Production: CTVC

Future Episodes:

Shariah TV (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=169319958&cf=0&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&chspid=166005000&chname=Channel+4&title=Shariah+TV&normalized=Shariah+TV&progutn=1112858100&.intl=uk) Thu Apr 07 12:15 AM
Shariah TV (http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvp&id=169321627&cf=0&lineup=uk&channels=europe_ch4&chspid=166005000&chname=Channel+4&title=Shariah+TV&normalized=Shariah+TV&progutn=1112944200&.intl=uk) Fri Apr 08 12:10 AM

[EuropeanHybrid]

There are too many now and some of them have been in Europe for 2/3 generations. I doubt one can realistically suggest deportation of 2/3 generation immigrants who are legal. What one can realistically propose is the immediate stop of immigration flow, re-patriation of illegal immigrants and deportation of criminals (such as terrorists and those involved in organised crime).

If you leave out only ONE of them, you will have a ticking time bomb. How can we ignore the lesson, our cousins in Serbia had to pay dearly for?
Even after 7 (seven) times 7 (seven) generations there will not be any change within their structure (rather the contrary: even more "'consolidation" because of this diaspora-thing ... you know what I mean?) and they will even multiply in number- and that is actually something they count on:the 2/3 generation. Ever heard something about "sleepers"?
If we want to be realistic the only solution will be a good sweep.
Thank you for your time, live long & prosper

[Jean Gove`]

If you leave out only ONE of them, you will have a ticking time bomb.
Really? How?

If we want to be realistic the only solution will be a good sweep.
And who will give this "realistic good sweep"? Who will have the power to give this "realistic good sweep" to Europe and at the same times the will not to abuse it?

[Virgil]

Jekk temmnu li l Multiculturism hi haga tal llum insuha. Thallux xi grafitti ibellawilkom

Wiehed mil ewwel pajjiz li ipratika l multiculturism kien propja L Egizzjani mal lhud. Ghal sekli shah l lhud u Egizzjani ghexu flimkien bhala ahwa. Imbaghad one fine day, l Lhud ghamlu allejanza sigrieta mal invazuri Hittiti u irnexxilhom jeqilbu l gvern. Dal gvern dam ftit ghax l farawni mexxa rivoluzzjoni li irnexxiet, kif tefa l hu fil poter tefa l lhud fi skjavitu u kecca l armata hittita min artu

L Integrazzjoni ddum s sekli biex isir u ma ssirx meta n nies ikunu ta kulturi u religjon kompletament differenti. Ezempju car hu L Imperu Ruman fejn l friction bejn l pagani (ta religjon Ewropeja) u l kristjani baqat ssir sakemm fl ahhar kulhadd gie ikonvertut ghal kristjanezimu. U grazzi ghat toleranza tal Imperu illum l ewropa hi imexxija mir religjon Ebrajka

Min jaf forsi fit 2105 d dixxendenti taghna waqt li sejrin il mekka jghidu " tafu li l Ewropa kienet kristjana qabel? lanqas nemmen li l vatikan kien xi darba knisja u mhux moskeja"

[Mirko]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

[EuropeanHybrid]

And who will give this "realistic good sweep"? Who will have the power to give this "realistic good sweep" to Europe and at the same times the will not to abuse it?[/QUOTE]

Abuse? How?
And by the way, what would be your suggestion on this matter?

[Florian Geyer]

And who will give this "realistic good sweep"? Who will have the power to give this "realistic good sweep" to Europe and at the same times the will not to abuse it?

Abuse? How?
And by the way, what would be your suggestion on this matter?[/QUOTE]

Bring back AH, and call them jews instead:D:eek:

[EuropeanHybrid]

Abuse? How?
And by the way, what would be your suggestion on this matter?

Bring back AH, and call them jews instead:D:eek:[/QUOTE]

This is exactly THEIR card.(Without smilies of course)