Mistħija Kroata!". Frakass f'Ta' Qali fi tmiem Malta-Kroażja. 70 l-Isptar, 99 arresta

[Arya]

"Mistħija Kroata!". Frakass f'Ta' Qali fi tmiem Malta-Kroażja. 70 l-Isptar, 99 arrestat. Ferut ukoll Ċensu Galea
Miktub: 08/09/2005 02:58:20
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TA’ QALI – Intemmet b’madwar 99 partitarju Kroat arrestat, u aktar minn 70 persuna jiddaħħlu l-Isptar San Luqa, fosthom ukoll Ministru tal-Gvern u l-Viċi President ta’ l-MFA, il-partita football valida għall-kwalifikazzjoni għat-Tazza tad-Dinja 2006 bejn Malta u l-Kroażja. Il-ġlied qalil żviluppa malli r-referee saffar it-tkeċċija ta' player Kroat lejn tmiem il-partita li ntemmet bl-iskor prestiġġjuż għat-team nazzjonali Malti ta’ 1-1. Riżultat li ma niżilx tajjeb mal-Kroati li issa jeħtieġu rebħa bilfors kontra l-Isveżja x-xahar id-dieħel biex jikkwalifikaw u tilfu posthom f’ras il-klassifika tal-grupp.

Grupp minn madwar 500 partitarju Kroat li kienu fin-naħa tax-xellug ta’ l-Enclosure tal-ground nazzjonali, niżel mal-ħadid biex jikkontesta lir-referee, fejn hemmhekk sabu grupp żgħir tal-Pulizija, iċċirkondawhom u bdew isawtuhom bil-ponn u bis-sieq.

F’dan il-ħin bdew jinqalgħu u jitwattbu kull tip ta’ oġġett fid-direzzjoni tal-Pulizija li ma kenitx armata għajr b’lembubi tas-servizz, kif ukoll lejn l-uffiżżjali tal-MFA li kienu fil-VIP area f’nofs l-Enclosure. Ludovico Micallef, il-Viċi President ta’ l-MFA ntlaqat minn oġġett iebes f’wiċċu u kien jeħtieġ li jittieħed l-Isptar fejn sarulu diversi punti f’wiċċu. Weġġa' wkoll u kien jeħtieġ il-punti l-Ministru Ċensu Galea li ntlaqat minn oġġett iebes. Sadattant, il-battalja mal-Pulizija kompliet tiħrax tant li s-sezjoni fejn kienu l-Kroati tkissret għal kollox u żżarmat mill-għamara li kien hemm. Anki t-taraġ tal-konkos, boltijiet u ħadid beda jitkisser u jitwaddab. Fost il-pulizija midruba, kien hemm ukoll is-Supretendent Pio Pisani.

Nisa, tfal u anżjani li kienu qed isegwu x-xeni mal-bqija tal-partitarji Maltin viċin ta’ l-inċidenti kienu evakwati mill-ground, filwaqt li wasal fil-post ukoll il-Kummissarju tal-Pulizija John Rizzo, li flimkien ma’ l-Assistant Kummissarju Josie Brincat sejħu għall-intervent ta’ l-SAG u aktar Pulizija mill-Għases tal-viżin u ordnaw l-assalt fuq il-Kroati, fejn kompliet il-battalja b’daqqiet ta’ kull xorta. B’kollox kienu arrestati 99 partitarju Kroat li nżammu arrestati u mmanettjati fil-ground, filwaqt li laħaq żviluppa ġlied ukoll barra l-ground bejn il-Maltin u Kroati oħra li rnexxielhom joħorġu minn qalb il-konfużjoni.

L-ambulanzi u teams ta’ paramediċi kienu ġejjin u sejrin mill-Isptar iġorru l-midruba, filwaqt li kelliem għall-Isptar San Luqa spjega li s-sitwazzjoni hi waħda ta’ emerġenża, fejn laħqu ddaħħlu madwar 70 persuna għal-kura bejn Maltin u Kroati.

Il-bqija tal-partitarji Kroati kienu skortati 'l barra mill-ground mill-Pulizija sa l-ajruport fejn baqgħu mgħassa sakemm ittellgħu abbord ajruplani li ħaduhom lura pajjiżhom. Il-bqija ta' l-arrestati ittieħdu d-Depot fi Floriana fejn qed jinżammu u mistennija jitieħdu passi kriminali konrihom fis-siegħat li ġejjin.

Il-Federazzjoni tal-Football Kroat, flimkien mat-team u d-delegazzjoni tal-Federazzjoni esprimew xokk għal dak li twettaq mill-partitarji Kroati, filwaqt li l-President ta' l-MFA Joe Mifsud ikkundanna bil-qawwa l-inċidenti u sostna li l-festa Maltija għar-riżultat u l-wirja prestiġġjuża minn Malta spiżżat imtappna minn dawn l-inżidenti.

Il-FIFA u l-UEFA ħabbru l-bidu ta' investigazzjoni dwar l-inċidenti, filwaqt li nfetħet ukoll inkjesta mmexxija mill-Maġistrat tal-Għassa.

[argo]

Forzi tas-sigurta' taz-zokk. Erba hooligans sakranazzi kapaci jaghmlu herba. Ara x'inhu gej la jirvellaw il-klandestini.

Pajjiz tal-Mickey Mouse.

[DJ Spiru]

Forzi tas-sigurta' taz-zokk. Erba hooligans sakranazzi kapaci jaghmlu herba. Ara x'inhu gej la jirvellaw il-klandestini.

Pajjiz tal-Mickey Mouse.

I am trying to immagine the police holding against a riot of about 500 blackies.

On the other hand it gives me an idea.

VM seems to have a lot of members now. Why don't VM organise a protest? About hundred people with banners will be sufficient. Do it in a way so that the date will remain a secret till very last few hours. Then go and enter Valletta, for example when parliament will start again. Try to catch the govenment by surprise.

[umberto]

What worries me is that maltese came out like chickens, or were held not to retaliate. I was not there anyway and i do not know.

Croats are battle hardened people. Maltese should have fought back, insult, give the finger etc. etc.

Are the injured all maltese :confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:

[Beowulf]

I am trying to immagine the police holding against a riot of about 500 blackies.

On the other hand it gives me an idea.

VM seems to have a lot of members now. Why don't VM organise a protest? About hundred people with banners will be sufficient. Do it in a way so that the date will remain a secret till very last few hours. Then go and enter Valletta, for example when parliament will start again. Try to catch the govenment by surprise.

Knowing many of the younger police, they would first wet their trousers and then some of their officer would come and try to apper to be negotiating. However if the shit hits the fan, they would surrender or just run away.

A secret protest like that will not work . From a hundred people, all the info woud leak out. And then be sure that Gonzi will take every policeman and soldier that he could spare to guard Valletta. He don't care much for the Maltese, but I bet that he thinks for himself.

[argo]

Are the injured all maltese :confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:

No some are ministers.

[umberto]

Great One. :D :D :D

[DJ Spiru]

LOL. Good for them. They deserve it.

Was the Duluri ta Kristu one of them?

[Marco Polo]

croats came out of a war 10 years ago and so are battle hardened. Maltese have been progressively weakened for years by feminine politics. I have nothing against croats but they should have had the crap kicked out of them. Just friendly, inter-imperium ass kicking.

Mutual respect is gained by a nice fight. We need one.

[Marco Polo]

No some are ministers.

you just made my day. no fatal injuries?

[umberto]

croats came out of a war 10 years ago and so are battle hardened. Maltese have been progressively weakened for years by feminine politics. I have nothing against croats but they should have had the crap kicked out of them. Just friendly, inter-imperium ass kicking.

Mutual respect is gained by a nice fight. We need one.


exactly. i know a croat colleague who likes malta, the maltese and its heritage very much. he comes to malta on work every so often and sometimes extends his time for a holiday.

yet, these should have been thought a nice lesson.

[Konti]

Malta hawn bzonn armata tajba li turi sniena ma min hemm bzonn.:mad:

[Bandiera Maltija]

Jien il- bierah kont hemm insegwi din il- partita. Il- Maltin laghbu tajjeb hafna u filfatt hadna draw. Il- Kroati bdew jirribellaw fi tmiem il- Partita. Dan ovvjamanet ghax kien minghalijhom li se jigu u jtuna xeba. Filfatt issa il- Kroazja nizlet fit- tieni post ta' grupp 8.

Ghalkemm il- loghba damet biss sad- disa. Jien domt hemm sa 10.30.Minhabba li inqala.

kull ma kien hemm hu biss 12 -il pulizija ghal bidu kontra xi 60 kroat. Certu Maltin reidu imorru jghinu lil pulizija jaghmlu il- glieda taghhom pero hadd ma hallihom. Ta qali gie qisu Gaza. il- Pulizija gew ftit ftit. Bdew gejjin hafna ambulanzi u karozzi tal- pulizija u arrestaw xi nies.

[umberto]

These troublemakers should be deported, declared personi non grati and banned from malta.

[Marco Polo]

These troublemakers should be deported, declared personi non grati and banned from malta.

i agree. we dont need trouble

[Gladiator]

LOL. Good for them. They deserve it.

Was the Duluri ta Kristu one of them?




Le dik ma thobbux il-Football ghax ma kienx hemm swed jilabu!

[umberto]

http://www.hina.hr/nws-bin/genews.cgi?TOP=hot&NID=ehot/politika/H9087834.4yc

MALTESE POLICE ARREST 103 CROATIANS FOR CAUSING STADIUM VIOLENCE
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LA VALLETTA/ZAGREB, Sept 8 (Hina) - The Maltese police said on Thursday they had arrested 103 Croatian soccer fans for causing riots at the end of a World Cup qualifying match between the national teams of Malta and Croatia in La Valletta last night.#L#

About 70 persons suffered injuries and were hospitalised. Among those injured were Maltese Communications Minister Censu Galea and Vice-President of the Maltese Soccer League, Ludovico Micallef, who were hit by seats on their heads.

Malta and Croatia played the match as part of the qualifiers in the European zone for the World Cup in Germany. After the game ended in a 1:1 draw, disgruntled Croatian fans demolished a part of the stadium Ta'qalli in La Valetta and clashed with local police. The rioters tore off seats and threw them into a section of the stadium where local fans and VIP guests were sitting. Last night, immediately after she heard of the stadium violence, Croatian Foreign Minister Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic phoned her Maltese counterpart Michael Frendo to express her regret at the incident.

[Gladiator]

Kien hemm, actually... :mad:

Rosmark

Iva, ma naqfx. Il-Kroati muhhomx swed? Forsi dak IL-Malti/Afrikan?:eek:
X advertising ghdin naghamlu mad-dinja?

Wahda qalti ftit illu mela ghandkom s-swed f-Malta?:eek:

[Konti]

Ma' Malta l-bierah laghab Anonam. Dan hu Nigerjan iehor (bhal Nwoko, Okonwo etc, etc) newtralizzat Malti biex jilghab 2 loghbiet man-Nazzjonal Malti mbghad jintefalek hawn jerda' minn fuq pajjizna ghal omru.

Min qed johrog il-permessi ghal dawn il-players hu traditur kbir ta' dan il-pajjiz, ghax dawn kif jispiccaw jigru wara l-ballun ghandhom jintbaghtu sparati lura lejn pajjizhom.

CITTADINANZA U PASSAPORT MALTI M'GHANDU JINGHATA QATT U LIL HADD JEKK MA JKUNX TWIELED MALTA.

[Bandiera Maltija]

Il- Kroazja ma kellhomx player iswed. Anzi il- players huma purament Kroati.

Ahna Malta le. Ghandna lil Anonam. Biex taxxaq lanqas tghid ghamel xi haga. Hlief qassatat m ghamilx.

Imbasta indahhlu is- suwed fit- Tim NAZZJONALI MALTI. Malta qatt ma niftakara li kellha xi tim puramnet Malti. Gharukaza.

[Caesar]

I'm against violence. No Maltese should be hurt even if the person belongs to the adversary. On the otherhand we should do a rematch.

We should make a team and suppoters full of illegal immigrants. Then they will play against Croatia. Then we close the doors of the stadium and see who survives. What do you think?

[ClaMs]

No some are ministers.

POST OF THE DAY!!! :D

Last night, immediately after she heard of the stadium violence, Croatian Foreign Minister Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic phoned her Maltese counterpart Michael Frendo to express her regret at the incident.

His obvious reply was "I think I'd better come over so that we can discuss this issue in greater depth, over coffee. Don't worry, my government will cover expenses."

[Kung Fu]

if its any consolation i heard many croates got beaten when they were arrested. serves them right for taking on us maltese

[carlos]

L-ewwel hsieb tieghi fuq dan is-suggett imur lejn l-umiljazjoni li qed ingarrbu kull meta iswed jilbes il-flok ta' Malta, l-ideja li ahna ghandna socjeta mifqugha bis-suwed li qed naghtu lil bqijja tad-dinja Bajda!

It-tieni huwa hsieb li hafna specjalment xi posters f'dan il-forum misshom jirrejallizzaw. Li meta nigu ghal fatti ahna l-Maltin wahedna, hadd, HADD ma hu se jaqbez ghalina, u hadd ma hu se jgibilna rispett, lanqas l-ewropej li tant qed nistennew minn ghandhom.

[Marco Polo]

CITTADINANZA U PASSAPORT MALTI M'GHANDU JINGHATA QATT U LIL HADD JEKK MA JKUNX TWIELED MALTA.

shall i go and hand mine back then? apparantly I have been maltese since birth. I was born in the UK and lived there till I was almost 13

[Laziale]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/images/20050908_loc_01.jpg


http://www.l-orizzont.com/images/articleimages/iddisprati0809095.jpg Jien kont prezenti ghal loghba. Ma nistawx inwahhlu fil puluzija ghax kien hemm l-istess ammont ta meta tintlab loghba tat 3rd division.U l-puluzija li ken hemm ma kienux armati tant li bhala tarka uzaw is siggijiet mwaddba lejhom

[Marco Polo]

Police are busy with klandestini. They couldn't be made available for the event.

[carlos]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/images/20050908_loc_01.jpg


http://www.l-orizzont.com/images/articleimages/iddisprati0809095.jpg Jien kont prezenti ghal loghba. Ma nistawx inwahhlu fil puluzija ghax kien hemm l-istess ammont ta meta tintlab loghba tat 3rd division.U l-puluzija li ken hemm ma kienux armati tant li bhala tarka uzaw is siggijiet mwaddba lejhom


Jigifieri ghal mal-Kroati l-puluzija ma marrux armati u ghar-regatta tal-bierah ghal mal-Maltin marru!!!!!

[Kung Fu]

u biex taxxaq kollox bilkemm wehlu xejn. kolla suspended sentences wehlu. jigifieri xejn ax wara jitlqu jigru l barra minn malta. dawk missom wehlu lm500 kolla!!!!!!!!!! mux dejjem jamlu bina li jridu l barranin.

[MaltiPur]

Il vera tal-misthija! Alla hares jidhru l-filmati li rajna fuq stazzjonijiet barranin ghax veru naqghu ghan-nejk, bil-pulizija Maltin qishom ebite, wiehed b'zaqq daqshiex ihares imbellah.... Biex jaqalghu biss tajbin. Bir-reputazzjoni li ghandhom il-Kroati, kont nippretendi iktar security il-ground. Veru l-pulizija mpenjati, u l-bierah kien hemm ir-regatta, li wkoll taf tkun tahraq, imma din mhiex skuza. Jew ahna attrezzati jew ma naghmluhiex ma barranin. Mur gieb ghamluha fi Franza jew it-Turkija din il-bicca xoghol! Kif kienu jkissruhom il-gerdarmerie! Imbaghad qorti farsa - lanqas haqq l-ispejjez ta' karti u overtime f'festa pubblika li hallasna mit-taxxi taghna biex dawn xorta telqu lejn pajjizhom. Ara dawn x'jitnejjku minn suspended sentence f'pajjiz iehor! Li kont jien - apparti x-xeba lembubi li kienu jaqilghu - kont nigirfilhom Lm5000- kull wiehed u jibqghu ic-chip sakemm ihallsuhomlhom + spejjez iktar ma jdumu, biex jaghmlu tajjeb ghall-ispejjez u l-bad image li kkawzawlna. Wara kollox il-Kroazja mhux fl-EU, hadd mhu ser jaqbez ghalihom. Ghalkemm tahlifx!

[argo]

L-iktar haga tal-misthija kienet li bhal ma kien (u ghadu) jsir f'certi pajjizi, il-fotografi tal-istampa ittiehdulhom ir-ritratti li hadu. Dan biex taparsi ma ssirx hsara lil Malta. Hehehe....... Jekk jidhru dawk ir-ritratti il-CHOGM jew jithassar jew igibu l-armata Brittanika biex tipprotegihom.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=198643

Memory cards 'confiscated'
Massimo Farrugia


Some of the Croatian football fans arriving in court yesterday. Picture: Darrin Zammit Lupi


Maltese and foreign press photographers had their digital camera memory cards confiscated during the incidents at Ta' Qali national stadium on Wednesday night.

Competitiveness Minister Censu Galea and two Malta Football Association officials had to be treated for injuries. The police said 16 officers, Maltese supporters and three Croatian fans were also injured during the incidents. Over 100 Croatian supporters were arraigned yesterday.

As disorder broke out, photographers on the pitch turned their cameras towards the stand to capture the incidents. But after they had been shooting for a while, policemen and a number of men in plain clothes ordered the photographers to stop shooting claiming that if published the photos could tarnish Malta's reputation.

"We were asked to hand over our memory cards. When we refused, some policemen said they were following orders. MFA security personnel also threatened to confiscate our equipment," The Times photographer Darrin Zammit Lupi said.

Croatian photographer Zeljko Lukunic claimed that the police and stadium security men confiscated his memory cards and damaged his lens when they pushed him against a wall.

"A policeman told me to erase the photos in his presence. I obeyed but stadium security people still took my cards," Mr Lukunic said.

Mr Lukunic said he saw two Croatian colleagues - another photographer and a cameraman - having their memory cards and tapes confiscated after being "manhandled".

He said he was ashamed by the behaviour of the Croatian supporters but said he had never been in a situation where his equipment was confiscated.

When contacted, MFA president Joe Mifsud said no orders had been given to confiscate memory cards.

"It does not seem to me that our people did anything like that," Dr Mifsud said when confronted with what the photographers were saying.

[lespaul87]

Why don't we organise a group holiday abroad while the CHOGM takes place? That's the only way we can really be safe!

They weren't even able to control a 100 Croats, let alone protect the bigheads from unknown threats during the CHOGM!

I must admit it was hilarious watching policemen trying to defend themselves against flying seats with their batons. I hope they send the film to Paperissima.

And why were the memory cards confiscated? Had there been more photographic evidence of the havoc created by the Croats, I think it would have worked on our side.

I know you will tell me to defend the policemen etc, but I guess those in the high positions who should have known better are still part of the Police Force and therefore can be addressed collectively.

And the court sentence was another farce.

[PERICLES]

Croat 'shame' after draw in Malta





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ZAGREB, Croatia (Reuters) -- Croatian media have slammed the national team for their 'shameful' draw in Malta, made worse by rioting Croatian fans who clashed with local police after the game.

Wednesday's 1-1 draw in a World Cup qualifier dented Croatia's hopes of qualifying directly for the finals in Germany next year.

State news agency Hina also confimed that Maltese police had arrested up to 90 rioting Croat fans.

With two games left, Sweden top Group Eight with 21 points, one ahead of Croatia.

"Croat shame on Malta" and "Huge shame suffered at the hands of amateurs" were the main headlines in dailies on Thursday.

"The visit to Malta was a huge shame not only in terms of the final result, but also because of the hooligans, disguised as supporters, who decided to vent their frustration on the stands after the game," the widely circulated Jutarnji List wrote.

Prime Minister Ivo Sanader condemned the behavior of the Croatian fans and Foreign Minister Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic expressed regrets to her Maltese counterpart Michael Frend.

Croatian police have asked Malta for a detailed report on the actions of travelling fans. "Besides dimming our prospects for qualifying directly for the World Cup finals, Croatia's chances to stage the European Championship in 2012 were also diminished greatly," the daily added.

Croatia and Hungary have jointly bid for the Euro 2012.

Coach Zlatko Kranjcar, however, remained optimistic with two games remaining against Sweden and Hungary.

"The lost points on Malta do not change our position dramatically. It was obvious even before that our tie with Sweden in October will decide the group winner," he told the Vecernji List daily.

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[argo]

There were far more policemen and secret service people at the African BBQ, Balzan to guard against the percieved threat of half a dozen VM members than there were at the stadium.

Tad-dahk li ma kienetx tal-biki.

[malsey]

This should be an eye opener. With our resources we weren't able to control 500 people. Imagine 3000 klandestini all around the country how you can control them. This was a match so a fight would continue hour or 2 the maximum.

Tghid ha jwahhlu fl lowell wkoll:D

There were far more policemen and secret service people at the African BBQ, Balzan to guard against the percieved threat of half a dozen VM members than there were at the stadium.

Tad-dahk li ma kienetx tal-biki.

[Abramortiis]

....iva ghax jghappogja lill lis-slavi u jghidilhom kugini!:D :D

[Marco Polo]

This should be an eye opener. With our resources we weren't able to control 500 people. Imagine 3000 klandestini all around the country how you can control them. This was a match so a fight would continue hour or 2 the maximum.

Tghid ha jwahhlu fl lowell wkoll:D

the maltese populace will soon take care of 3000 klandestini mals.......in the spirit of la valette imma :D

[Konti]

Fil-kas tieghek le Marco Polo; jekk ikollok gheruq Maltin daqshekk profondi u jkollok genitur/i Maltin jinhareg passaport!!!

Sorry mate, no offence but I am so angry at these Nigerian players.:confused:

[Artist]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/images/20050908_loc_01.jpg


http://www.l-orizzont.com/images/articleimages/iddisprati0809095.jpg Jien kont prezenti ghal loghba. Ma nistawx inwahhlu fil puluzija ghax kien hemm l-istess ammont ta meta tintlab loghba tat 3rd division.U l-puluzija li ken hemm ma kienux armati tant li bhala tarka uzaw is siggijiet mwaddba lejhom

KISSER, KISSER, GAHAN KROAT!

IL-Gahan mhux Malta biss qieghed.

[wbgray]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=198643

Memory cards 'confiscated'
Massimo Farrugia


Some of the Croatian football fans arriving in court yesterday. Picture: Darrin Zammit Lupi


Maltese and foreign press photographers had their digital camera memory cards confiscated during the incidents at Ta' Qali national stadium on Wednesday night.

Competitiveness Minister Censu Galea and two Malta Football Association officials had to be treated for injuries. The police said 16 officers, Maltese supporters and three Croatian fans were also injured during the incidents. Over 100 Croatian supporters were arraigned yesterday.

As disorder broke out, photographers on the pitch turned their cameras towards the stand to capture the incidents. But after they had been shooting for a while, policemen and a number of men in plain clothes ordered the photographers to stop shooting claiming that if published the photos could tarnish Malta's reputation.

"We were asked to hand over our memory cards. When we refused, some policemen said they were following orders. MFA security personnel also threatened to confiscate our equipment," The Times photographer Darrin Zammit Lupi said.

Croatian photographer Zeljko Lukunic claimed that the police and stadium security men confiscated his memory cards and damaged his lens when they pushed him against a wall.

"A policeman told me to erase the photos in his presence. I obeyed but stadium security people still took my cards," Mr Lukunic said.

Mr Lukunic said he saw two Croatian colleagues - another photographer and a cameraman - having their memory cards and tapes confiscated after being "manhandled".

He said he was ashamed by the behaviour of the Croatian supporters but said he had never been in a situation where his equipment was confiscated.

When contacted, MFA president Joe Mifsud said no orders had been given to confiscate memory cards.

"It does not seem to me that our people did anything like that," Dr Mifsud said when confronted with what the photographers were saying.



I am concerned about the attempt by govt to prevent media coverage of the fight (by confiscating film, memory chips, et cetera).

[umberto]

that even happened in holland.

[D.P.R.K.]

Are we a real republic or a pseudo-republic ?

Drunkard hooligans beating our police force ??? Madonna !!

What's gonna happen when the illegal immigrants decide to burst out a riot ?

POLICEMEN SHOULD CARRY A SUB-MACHINE GUN, or else Malta is gonna be labelled "a banana re-pub-lic".

[Marco Polo]

freedom of speech is just an illusion wbgray.

i dont think it is as bad in the USA (YET!)

whenever you see them trying to tighten gun laws over there, treat it as a signal to buy another gun and tons of ammunition. You will need it for when whites become a minority anyway. we dont have the security of the (i think its 2nd) amendment over here in europe. if the government becomes tyrannical, tough shit!

[Marco Polo]

police should not carry sub-machine guns at all. even non-lethal wepons would have been plenty! (baton rounds, stun grenades, water cannons etc.)

[wbgray]

freedom of speech is just an illusion wbgray.

i dont think it is as bad in the USA (YET!)

whenever you see them trying to tighten gun laws over there, treat it as a signal to buy another gun and tons of ammunition. You will need it for when whites become a minority anyway. we dont have the security of the (i think its 2nd) amendment over here in europe. if the government becomes tyrannical, tough shit!

Please tell me (briefly) about gun laws in Malta.

[Marco Polo]

this is europe. we arent allowed to own guns as a defence against the government (big brother is your friend). we do have shotguns for hunters and i think there may be collectors pieces, but they are all licensed and inspected every year. in the event of the government becoming truly tyranical they would pick up all guns very quickly (knowing exactly where to find them).

to my knowledge all of Europe is similar.

[Darius]

Don't forget the ones that don't claim them though!

SAG should be present at the stadium every time and every match, why should we always suffer a mishapening to learn? This system is stupid.

[carlos]

Please tell me (briefly) about gun laws in Malta.

Licenses can and are issued for EVERY gun possible as far as it is legally imported and registered.

Licenses are of two types, 'to carry' or 'to keep'.

Licenses of the 'to carry' type are ONLY issued for hunting shotguns, ranging from pump action to automatic to percussion.

You can only apply for a 'to carry' license after you get a membership in a hunting federation, and get an insurance that covers hunting related mishaps and accidents.

Air rifles and air pistols are never issued a 'to carry' license. While harpoons and certain types of knifes are.

Every now and than the government announces a grace period were citizens can register and get a license for 'illegally' imported or previously unregistered fire-arms. Of course a 'no questions asked' policy is maintained. Fire-arms which were never used in any crime are issued with a license.

[Darius]

Yes Harpoons are issued to keep license. Even professional supercharge ones.