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Artist
1stSeptember2005, 15:58
X'jitlob unur Malta? minn John Cachia

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http://www.l-orizzont.com/images/articleimages/kland010905.jpg FL-20 ta’ Awissu l-orizzont gie ppubblikat rapport bl-isem “Qatt ma konna strutturati ghall-immigrazzjoni illegali”, fejn il-Kmandant tal-Forzi Armati, il-Brigadier Karm Vassallo, gie kkwotat li qal hekk f’konferenza ta’ l-ahbarijiet:

(a) “Il-problema ta’ l-immigranti illegali giet maghna, baqghet maghna u qatt ma konna strutturati ghaliha” (enfasi tieghi).

(b) Ftit ’l isfel huwa zied: “...meta l-problema ta’ l-immigrazzjoni illegali qed tkompli tikber” (enfasi tieghi).

Rigward (a) il-Kmandant ghandu ragun ghax l-ebda armata mhi “strutturata” ghall-“problema ta’ immigranti illegali”.

Dak li qal f’(b) fakkritni f’dak li deher f’l-orizzont tat-2 ta’ Awissu fir-rapport “Jintefa’ aktar piz fuq l-Armata Maltija” ta’ John Pisani li kiteb hekk:

“Aktar kmieni din is-sena ghaddiet ligi internazzjonali li se tigi fis-sehh mill-1 ta’ Gunju 2006. Din il-ligi tghid li kull salvatagg li jsir fl-ibhra li huma responsabbli ta’ Malta mhux aktar se jiddahhlu fl-eqreb port, izda f’Malta. Din il-ligi kienet imfissra fid-dettal mill-Brigadier Vassallo” (enfasi tieghi).

Ir-reporter Pisani kien qed jirreferi ghar-rapport tieghu stess bit-titlu “Is-sena d-diehla rridu naccettaw il-klandestini kollha” li deher fil-harga ta’ l-orizzont tal-25 ta’ Gunju li ghadda fejn kiteb x’qal il-Brigadier:

“Konvenzjonijiet internazzjonali li se jgibu fis-sehh ligi gdida f’Gunju tas-sena d-diehla se tfisser li l-klandestini kollha li jghaddu mill-ibhra Maltin, Malta se tkun obbligata taccettahom kollha f’pajjizna.

“Meta l-Brigadier Carm Vassallo kien qieghed jiehu sehem fil-programm ‘Realtà’, immexxi minn Brian Hansford fuq Smash Television, qal li l-Flight Information Region (FIR) ta’ Malta tkopri 260,000 kilometri kwadri minkejja c-cokon ta’ pajjizna” (enfasi tieghi).

Aktar ’l isfel ir-rapport zied: “Izda minn Gunju tas-sena d-diehla, minkejja li dawn (klandestini) ikunu aktar minn 100 mil barra mill-kosta Maltija, se jkunu responsabbiltà ta’ Malta u jingiebu Malta”.

U izjed ’l isfel ir-rapport kompla hekk:

“Anke dghajsa li tkun 300 mil ’il boghod minn Malta u vicin hafna ta’ Kreta, xorta wahda tiddahhal Malta ghax hekk tghid il-ligi. Il-Brigadier Vassallo qal li mill-bidunett Malta wriet li ma taqbilx, izda l-maggoranza qablu li din il-ligi tigi fis-sehh u ghaldaqstant m’hemmx triq ohra” (enfasi tieghi).

Ta’ min josserva li:

(1) Skond ir-rapport il-Brigadier la semma liema huma l-konvenzjonijiet u lanqas it-titlu tal-ligi internazzjonali;

(2) Skond ir-rapport lanqas staqsewh dwar dawn;

(3) Kien, xi darba, inghata l-ahbar li l-Gvern Malti ha sehem f’din il-ligi internazzjonali?;

(4) “L-ibhra Maltin” mhux suppost huma l-ibhra territorjali ta’ 12-il mil?;

(5) Din x’redikolagni hi li waqt li l-kobor tal-gzejjer Maltin huwa ta’ 316-il kilometru kwadru bellghulu responsabbiltà ta’ 260,000 kilometru kwadru?;

(6) Jekk Malta ma qablitx ma’ din il-ligi internazzjonali ghaliex accettatha meta taf sewwa li se titghaffeg taht il-piz?

Tiskanta meta l-Brigadier, skond ir-rapport, gie biex qal: “ghax hekk tghid il-ligi” waqt li zied “u ghaldaqstant m’hemmx triq ohra”!

Qabel Malta ddahhlet membru shih fl-Unjoni Ewropea kemm tfanfru meta kienu jghidu: “Kif Malta ssir membru tpoggi madwar l-istess mejda mal-pajjizi l-kbar”. B’diskors vojt bhal dan riedu jimlew mohh il-poplu biex juru l-istima li Malta suppost kienet se tgawdi bhala membru ta’ l-UE. Bhala ezempju klassiku ta’ din is-suppost stima, bizzejjed wiehed jaqra li gej mehud mir-rapport “Malta injorata mill-‘Hamsa l-Kbar’: Malta assenti mill-mejda tad-decizjonijiet”, li deher fil-KullHadd tas-7 ta’ Awissu.

“Malta tinsab izolata mill-hames pajjizi ewlenin ta’ l-UE, maghrufin bhala l-‘Hamsa l-Kbar’ li qeghdin ifasslu bejniethom u jiddeterminaw il-politika ta’ l-Unjoni Ewropea fil-konfront tal-krizi ta’ l-immigrazzjoni illegali li bhalissa, tinsab fl-eqqel taghha fil-Mediterran. Franza, l-Italja, Spanja, il-Germanja u l-Ingilterra qeghdin jiltaqghu f’laqghat separati li jeskludu lill-pajjizi l-ohrajn ta’ l-UE”.

Aktar ’l isfel ikompli: “Il-Hamsa l-Kbar qeghdin jahdmu biex jibaghtu lura lejn il-pajjizi ta’ l-origini taghhom lil eluf ta’ immigranti illegali li bhalissa jinsabu fl-Italja, Franza u Spanja”.

Mhux hekk biss, izda dawn il-Hamsa Kbar “iddecidew li jeskludu lil Malta anke meta ssir ufficjalment membru shih ta’ l-UE, ma tkunx prezenti ghal-laqgha u waqt decizjonijiet dwar l-immigrazzjoni illegali”. Biex jghaxxaqha jigi l-Ministru Fran-ciz ta’ l-Intern Nicolas Sarkozy jiddefendi l-eskluzjoni ta’ Malta mit-tfassil tal-politika ta’ l-UE dwar l-immigrazzjoni illegali fil-Mediterran.

”Dan hu l-mod kif nahdmu ahjar”, huwa qal. Jigifieri l-ahjar mod huwa li jiltaqghu, jitkellmu bejniethom u jiddeciedu l-Hamsa l-Kbar biss.

Min ghadu, jew jista’ jemmen li l-membri kollha, kbar u zghar, ta’ l-Unjoni Ewropea huma ugwali, bl-ebda nuqqas ta’ stima bejniethom fejn tidhol is-sovranità jew li fl-ghaqda ta’ l-UE tinstab dik is-solidarjetà li tant jiftahru biha?

Il-Gvern taghna possibbli ma jafx kemm gergru dwar dan kollu l-Finlandja u l-Awstrija biex ma nsemmix membri ohrajn?

Issa nigu ghal punt iehor. Fil-harga ta’ l-orizzont ta’ l-20 ta’ Awissu hemm daqsxejn ta’ ahbar rilevanti ferm. Din l- ahbar taht ir-ras “Immigrazzjoni illegali” u tahtu t-titlu “Il-Gvern u l-obbligi internazzjonali.”

L-ewwel nofs ta’ l-ewwel paragrafu jinqara hekk:

“Il-Ministru tal-Gustizzja qal li l-Gvern Malti mhu qed jeskludi ebda ghazla dwar l-obbligi internazzjonali li ghandu dwar l-immigrazzjoni illegali ghax stqarr li ma jafx kif se tizviluppa s-sitwazzjoni fil-futur” (enfasi tieghi).

Dawn x’affarijiet huma? Hawn jixraq ftit rimarki:

(1) Mela l-Ministru tal-Gustizzja ma jafx bil-ligi internazzjonali li semma u spjega l-Brigadier Vassallo u l-mappa li dehret f’l-orizzont tal-25 ta’ Gunju?

(2) Jekk din il-ligi se tidhol fis-sehh is-sena d-diehla kif ma jistax jissoponi “kif se tizviluppa s-sitwazzjoni fil-futur” meta fil-prezent digà ghandna krizi?

(3) U s-sitwazzjoni ta’ krizi tkun ferm akbar milli ghandha Malta llum meta tikkunsidra li pajjizna, ghalkemm membru shih ta’ l-Unjoni Ewropea, se jibqa’ izolat mill-istess Unjoni Ewropea u bla ghajnuna biex jehles mill-klandestini bhalma qeghdin jiftehmu li jaghmlu l-Hamsa l-Kbar?

Ghaliex il-Ministru tal-Gustizzja, meta jaf sewwa tassew il-krizi li ninsabu fiha, qed isibha bi kbira biex jissospendi jew jirrinunzja obbligi internazzjonali meta Malta ghandha bosta ragunijiet serjissimi ferm biex tiggustifika pass bhal dan?

Pajjizi kbar u zghar irrinunzjaw trattati, konvenzjonijiet u rizoluzzjonijiet ta’ l-Assemblea Generali u tal-Kunsill tas-Sigurtà tal-Gnus Maghquda.

Zewg ezempji bizzejjed:

(i) Il-President Amerikan rema (a) trattat dwar il-missili ballistici; (b) trattat ta’ Kyoto; u (c) trattat tal-Qorti Internazzjonali.

(ii) Il-Prim Ministru Ingliz tant irid jaghmel ligi iebsa kontra t-terrorizmu li lest isib mod kif jehles kemm jista’ minn dak li jitlob il-Human Rights Act ta’ l-1998 li l-Ingilterra stess kellha sehem kbir fit-tfassil tieghu.

Nisthajjel il-qarrej jghid: Imma dawn l-Istati Uniti u l-Ingilterra. Allura Malta, ghax nitfa, m’ghandhiex nies jghixu fuqha? Ghax nitfa, ghandha thalli lilha nfisha titghaffeg?

umberto
1stSeptember2005, 21:34
min jghaffigna nghafguh.

malsey
1stSeptember2005, 22:46
Fl eu ma se naghmlu xejn zgur. tal anqas sakemm jkun hemm gonzi, frendo u id doo gooders imexxu.
jiena kieku kont prim bhalissa malajr inwahhalulhom. nghidilhom jekk minn ghada ma hux se niehdu burden sharing jiena inwaqqaf it tahdidiet ghall ftuh tal eu mat turkija!!!. u jekk fi zmien sitt xhur l eu ma solviex il problema mill afrika, jigifieri minn fejn jigu jintbatu nerga nwaqqaf in negozjati.
Gonzi ghandu din is seta imma bla sinsla u ma juzahhiex:mad:

VittorioEmanuele
2ndSeptember2005, 06:38
A lot of people before the eu referendum, and i was one of them, pointed out that Malta will never count as one of the big boys, at least under the leadership of Dr E.F.Adami or any of his people. And in every single discussion i ever took part I was called a pupazz ta sant, a bniedem imdallam and a lot of other things, including that since I am pointing these things out I am surely with the LE group. What can i say... TOLD YOU :mad: !

Even on paper it is quite impossible to be counted as one of the big boys unless a) we get more representatives and b) we get someone else to run the shop

Semper Sapiens
2ndSeptember2005, 08:42
Fl eu ma se naghmlu xejn zgur. tal anqas sakemm jkun hemm gonzi, frendo u id doo gooders imexxu.
jiena kieku kont prim bhalissa malajr inwahhalulhom. nghidilhom jekk minn ghada ma hux se niehdu burden sharing jiena inwaqqaf it tahdidiet ghall ftuh tal eu mat turkija!!!. u jekk fi zmien sitt xhur l eu ma solviex il problema mill afrika, jigifieri minn fejn jigu jintbatu nerga nwaqqaf in negozjati.
Gonzi ghandu din is seta imma bla sinsla u ma juzahhiex:mad:

Aqra l-ahbarijiet tal-lum. Franza u l-Awstrija kienu aktar professjonali minn Malta. Bl-skuza tac-Cipru, qed jghidu car u tond li it-Turkija m'ghandiex post fl-UE.

Row Intensifies Over Turkey's EU Bid http://www.dw-world.de/img/transpa.gif http://www.dw-world.de/img/transpa.gif http://www.dw-world.de/img/transpa.gif Days before EU foreign ministers meet to discuss the negotiating framework for EU entry talks with Turkey, positions have hardened on Ankara's EU bid. France is urging Turkey to clarify its position on Cyprus.

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The EU Commission is in no doubt that after years of preparation, Turkey is ready to begin accession talks on October 3.

Turkey has fulfilled all the conditions that were decided upon during a summit last December of EU leaders, according to EU Commission spokeswoman Francoise Lebail.

Turkey cleared the last obstacle to starting entry talks by signing what is known as the Ankara protocol last month, extending its customs union to new EU members including Cyprus. Lebail added that it was not necessary for Ankara to formally recognize Cyprus, whose northern part is occupied by the Turkish army. At the same time it would be good if Turkey did move to ease tensions with Cyprus, Lebail said.

"It's clear that that every effort that Turkey makes before October 3 would be very helpful. But Turkey is not legally bound to do more than it already has," Lebail said.

Frances raises pressure on Turkey

But not everyone agrees.

French President Jacques Chirac said on Monday that Turkey's refusal to recognize EU member state Cyprus did throw up problems. On Tuesday French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy issued a new call on Tuesday for Turkey to recognize Cyprus.

"It is hardly conceivable that a country which is asking to enter a community refuses to recognize one of its members," he told a conference of French ambassadors in Paris. He said Ankara must clarify its position on Cyprus, but added that France would "respect its commitments but expects Turkey and other candidate countries to respect theirs and satisfy the conditions for joining the Union."

Voices of opposition can also be heard coming from Germany. Angela Merkel, leader of the opposition Christian Democrats (CDU), has demanded in a letter addressed to all conservative EU leaders and the EU Commission to change the goal of the accession talks with Turkey from full-fledged EU membership to a so-called "privileged partnership."

Doubts remain

Elmar Brok, chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the European parliament and CDU member, supports the move.

"It's clear that the Cyprus question can't just stay the way it is," he said.

"We have to also ensure that the whole issue of the capacity of the EU to absorb more members is also cleared up and that can't be done in the foreseeable future," Brok added. "For reasons of fairness, also towards Turkey, we must find other ways -- whether it's privileged partnership or something else -- to bind Turkey closer to Europe."

EU foreign ministers are meeting on Thursday and Friday to discuss the negotiating framework for EU accession talks with Turkey, which has to come to unanimous agreement.

According to diplomatic sources, frantic wrangling is underway behind the scenes on the wording of the agreement. Cyprus could veto the document and even Austria has signaled it has doubts.

Austrian EU Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner, responsible for foreign policy, has said the EU has to be more careful in the future when it comes to promising membership.

http://www.dw-world.de © Deutsche Welle

addendum:

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-143201-16&type=News

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-129678-16&type=LinksDossier

umberto
2ndSeptember2005, 09:35
Ma hemm xejn isbah mil-verita'. Il-bicca l-kbira tac-cittadini ewropej ma jridux it-Turkija gewwa. Lanqas tant hija skuza professjonali, jekk hija skuza, fl-opinjoni tieghi. Ghax qed jassumu li t-Torok m'humiex professjonali li ma jindunawx li din hija skuza.

Certu kwistjonijiet m'ghandhomx jintrabtu ma kundizjonijiet. Ghax x'jigri jekk il-problema ta' Cipru tibda biex tissolva?

umberto
2ndSeptember2005, 09:42
A lot of people before the eu referendum, and i was one of them, pointed out that Malta will never count as one of the big boys, at least under the leadership of Dr E.F.Adami or any of his people. And in every single discussion i ever took part I was called a pupazz ta sant, a bniedem imdallam and a lot of other things, including that since I am pointing these things out I am surely with the LE group. What can i say... TOLD YOU :mad: !

Even on paper it is quite impossible to be counted as one of the big boys unless a) we get more representatives and b) we get someone else to run the shop

Same story here.

umberto
2ndSeptember2005, 09:49
X'tghid il-ligi internazzjonali mod, u x'jaghmel il-gvern malti mod iehor.

Jekk sa jibqa jgib an li ssemma hawn fuq, is-socjeta' mhux sa tibqa responsabbli ta' eghmila.

VittorioEmanuele
2ndSeptember2005, 12:54
Same story here.

Well, saddly we were right in the end... :(

Gladiator
2ndSeptember2005, 15:12
Aqra l-ahbarijiet tal-lum. Franza u l-Awstrija kienu aktar professjonali minn Malta. Bl-skuza tac-Cipru, qed jghidu car u tond li it-Turkija m'ghandiex post fl-UE.



addendum:

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-143201-16&type=News

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-129678-16&type=LinksDossier

Semper Sapiens, mons. Chirac speaks with a forked toung. Do not trust him.

If they are serious in not having Turkey in the EU, they shouldn't have started the negotiations. Brussels could have said a flat NO from the start.

Marco Polo
2ndSeptember2005, 15:30
Semper Sapiens, mons. Chirac speaks with a forked toung. Do not trust him.

If they are serious in not having Turkey in the EU, they shouldn't have started the negotiations. Brussels could have said a flat NO from the start.

i believe it is all chaff in preparation for another go at the constitution vote.

they will pretend they are unsure of turkey to ease popular opinion.

Artist
2ndSeptember2005, 15:37
I'm a fanancial capitalist so I want Turkey to join the EU.
Issa naraw ta' min tghaddi.

Semper Sapiens
2ndSeptember2005, 15:58
I can hardly envisage the reality or practicability of Turkey being in the EU.

My political intuition tells me that there might be a veto by some present EU member, or we might perhaps hear Mr. Gul (at latest till 3 October) saying that Turkey will be withdrawing its application for membership.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=aeeEYkW7wVdk&refer=uk


EU, Turkey Battle Over Entry Talks, Risking Late Snag (Update1)
Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Turkey and the European Union battled over the terms of Turkey's EU membership bid, risking last-minute snags to the planned start of entry negotiations next month.

EU foreign ministers scolded Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for refusing to grant full diplomatic status to EU member Cyprus, while saying the EU remains committed to beginning the decade-long negotiations on Oct. 3.

U.K. Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn each said at an EU meeting in Newport, Wales that they are only ``reasonably confident'' of the talks going ahead on time.

With EU governments weighing stiffer conditions for Turkey and a key trade protocol still unratified by the European and Turkish parliaments, the diplomatic wrangling could drag on until the deadline.

The overwhelmingly Muslim nation is counting on the EU negotiations to attract record foreign investment to its $300 billion economy, help reduce a jobless rate of 10 percent and boost living standards for its 72 million people.

``Turkey has nothing left to do,'' Erdogan said today in Rome. ``Some EU countries, for their own political reasons, are trying to show that the EU is a Christian club.''

The clash centered on Turkey's boycott of full political and commercial ties with the Greek republic of Cyprus, one of 10 countries that joined the EU last year. Turkey has occupied the northern half of the Mediterranean island since 1974.

Shipping

While Turkey met the EU's final legal condition for starting the talks on July 29 by extending a trade accord to cover Cyprus, EU ministers demanded that Turkey take practical steps to normalize trade relations by letting Cypriot ships unload goods in Turkish ports.

Turkey's promises to bolster trade with Cyprus ``not only have to be signed and ratified, but they also have to be implemented,'' Straw told a news conference late yesterday after chairing the opening session of the EU meeting.

Cypriot Foreign Minister George Iacovou, who sought condemnation of Turkey's stance from the EU, didn't threaten to veto the talks and said today that ``I am optimistic they will start'' on time.

Turkey is now less sure of that, said a government official who asked not to be identified. Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul will meet the EU ministers later today to try to work a way out of the impasse.

`We Will Walk Away'

Gul was quoted today by the Economist magazine as saying Turkey would respond to any new EU conditions by withdrawing its application for membership.

``Should they propose anything short of full membership, or any new conditions, we will walk away,'' the weekly cited Gul as saying in an interview last week. ``And this time it will be for good.''

Turkey's snub of Cyprus caused a diplomatic stir in the EU. French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin questioned whether entry talks should begin with a nation that didn't recognize an existing member.

De Villepin, facing a backlash against EU expansion after French voters rejected the EU's proposed constitution in May, kept the bloc on edge throughout August with a threat to sabotage the talks until relenting this week.

France doesn't want to trigger a ``European crisis'' by blocking the talks, Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said yesterday. ``For us it's important that the EU say clearly it regrets this declaration and we wish in the current environment that it recognize all members. France is not isolated.''

The same qualms led the European Parliament in Brussels yesterday to postpone its vote on Turkey's trade protocol with Cyprus until the week of Sept. 26. The protocol also has yet to be ratified by the Turkish parliament.