Malta taghna

[The One]

Ladies and Gentlemen,



This survey showed the real core of Maltese people, whether you like it or not. The representative sociological surveys are a science. A fact. To deny them or to have the same person that conducted the research saying his own personal view and quoting the Bible is extremely unprofessional. What a shame!



Now, if we as a European Nation want to continue our democratic culture, we have no other option but to move with the flow (that over the 50%).
Power to the people.

Democracy is the game of the majority . We as Vivamalta are moderate people who love our own nation and insist that the opinion of the majority is respected.

This is the basic function of democracy. A system done by the people for the people .

Anyone who disagrees with that should not be called a democratic citizen and is breaching the fundamental lines of our constitution.
We of Vivamalta.org have no option but to reflect what our people think. The Nation is behind us 97%. Whatever the prime minister or any other authority says, if they do not believe so we challenge you to do a referendum and let the sound of democracy echo in every sector of our nation.

If they insist to call the public opinion ( just as they are doing now )as fuel for racist propaganda or attack the population by buzz words such as racist, intolerant, ignorant etc... Then this will create chaos of all dimensions.

This will show that these traitors that got elected by the same people believe in a totalitarian state just as Hitler did. A state that reflects their own personal opinion and interest and where democracy is only left for the television screens. If they ignore the people , the people will ignore them in the very near future.

If this situation has to prevail we will fight till the last man to make sure that our fellow citizens opinions are heard.



I herby advise all politicians to take note of us. Because this study shows that we are the people and the people are us. We are the common people coming from all the various social strata, all with small differences but we all converge to our basic national defense. If you are not ready to defend our nation , make it public and move away .There are others who can lead. If you insist in being in government and opposition and do not take extreme measures to such an extreme situation. The Maltese will go to the streets and I don 't want to see that in my lifetime.

So i herby warn you if you try and shut us up, you are shutting up 97% of the population.

[umberto]

Survey shows that the field is laid.
Probably it is more common sense then anything else.
Yet it has to be cultivated further.

Maintained.

[Mazzola75]

Despite all the leftist propoganda, we got such a positive survey. Impressive.

[etoile noir]

welcome back The One :) good to see you here.

this is a double thread. which one do you want to keep? i need to merge them and would like to know which section you would like your post/new thread in.

thanks.

[Mirko]

If 97% of the people are against illegal immigration that doesn't mean we have 97% percent of the people who support us and our ideas.

[PERICLES]

Maltese society is much more racist and xenophobic than one would have thought, and according to the results of the latest Sunday Times survey, conducted by sociologist Mario Vassallo, our attitudes to foreigners are at considerable variance with the long-standing hospitality of which we are so proud. But it seems traditonal Maltese hosptality is limited solely to tourists and temporary visitors.

Undoubtedly, the latest waves of illegal (or irregular) immigrants from Third World countries landing on our shores have strengthened xenophobic feelings.

According to the survey, carried out by telephone among 300 respondents between July 23 and 30, an overwhelming 97.3% of the Maltese said that nobody had the right to come and settle in Malta. Only 2.3% said this right should be given to everybody.

Respondents were also asked whether they would be prepared to accept members of particular races as neighbours. In the case of Europeans, the acceptance rate was a thumping 95%, but only 32% were prepared to have Chinese or similar people living next door; 27% had no objection to Americans living next door and 22% did not mind having Indian neighbours.

In the case of other races, rejection is much stronger. Palestinians and Arabs in general were unwelcome by 95.3% and 93.7% of the Maltese respectively, with Africans (90%) and Jews (89%) faring only slightly better.

However, younger persons were more willing than their elders to have members of different races as neighbours. There were also some differences when the data is analysed across social categories.

In response to another question, only about 21% the Maltese are ready to grant asylum to foreigners fleeing political persecution, war or hunger/mass poverty in their home countries.

Only 16.7% are willing to give shelter to persons who would have already been granted refugee status; 8.3% are definitely against, while 75% did not express an opinion.

To the question: "Should skin colour affect what kind of treatment is afforded to a person when he or she is being considered for political asylum or shelter?" only 17.3% unequivocally stated that everyone should be treated the same. As many as 76.3% did not give an opinion, while 6.3% said preference should be given to whites.

The same level of intolerance was shown to persons belonging to different religions: 79.3% would not give asylum to Muslims, and 76.7% would refuse it to Jews. There was a similar degree of objection to atheists (78%), while there was a somewhat lower level of rejection of asylum - at 67.3% - to Christians.

Analysing the figures by social category, it seems that the lower socio-economic groups are more xenophobic than the higher ones.

According to 92% of the Maltese, illegal immigrants should be denied the right to work in Malta; only 4.7% are in favour of giving them such a right.

Asked whether three specific conditions should be imposed on foreigners (not EU citizens) who decide to settle permanently in Malta, no one was in favour of imposing knowledge of the Maltese language as a condition. Only 1.3% suggested that conversion to Christianity should be compulsory, but 86.3% insisted that they should not be given Maltese citizenship. Only 6.1% said that citizenship should be granted.

Finally, 94.7% think that the European Union should accede to the request by the Maltese goernment to help Malta cope with the problems caused by illegal immigration; only 1.3% said the EU should not come into it; the rest did not offer an opinion.

Asked for his comments, Professor Vassallo said: "This study reveals a somewhat sad side of Maltese national identity and cracks the traditional belief that Maltese are a highly hospitable people, a feature so often paraded as a selling point for the Maltese.

"There is ample proof that the Maltese are indeed a generous race, and that throughout history they have been able to live under and cope with the viccititudes of various nations.

"But generosity and charity do not necessarily translate into accepting the fundamental Christian notion of the 'brotherhood of man', and that all persons are equally 'children of God'. This study clearly shows that the Maltese accept these notions with major reservations.

"Although it is understandable that the recent illegal immigrant phenomenon, and the recent spate of terrorist attacks could have fomented fears among the Maltese, the findings of this study clearly point to a set of social and moral problems that require urgent and focused attention from the educational, ecclesiastical and political authorities to re-educate the Maltese to some basic values.

"Foremost among these is that each person is born equal, has the same dignity irrespective of skin colour or creed, and is the bearer of the same set of fundamental human rights," Professor Vassallo concluded.


Racism survey conclusions

This study confirms that the Maltese are generally xenophobic and that the recent phenomenon of illegal immigration, now developing to unforeseen proportions, has made us increasingly suspicious of anybody who decides to settle permanently in Malta.

In fact, in reply to the first question on whether everybody should have a right to come and settle in Malta, only 2.3% are prepared to accord this right to anybody. A staggering 97.3% simply said No, while the remaining 0.3% did not know.

An analysis of the various breakdowns shows that there was a high consistency in this view, except for those aged 16-25, among whom those who said Yes goes up to 7.8%. Strikingly perhaps, persons in the lower social classes appear to be more open to extend this right than those in the AB socio-economic group (AB: 0%; C1: 1.8%; C2: 3.3%; and DE: 3.3%).

Neither do the Maltese willingly accept anybody to live next door. This study sought to elicit the extent to which traditional Maltese hospitality extended willingness to accept persons from different nationalities as neighbours.

Not as neighbours

All participants were accordingly asked whether they preferred persons from a number of countries and races to be their neighbours. The races so asked about are: Europeans; Chinese or similar; Jews/Israelis; Palestinians; Africans, Americans, Arabs and Indians or similar.

The findings clearly prove that the Maltese are generally very unwilling to accept non-Maltese living next door. The only major exception is in respect of Europeans, in which case 95% are willing to accept them as neighbours. Next come Chinese or similar (at 32%), Americans (at 27%) and Indian or otherwise (at 22%), but the jump from Europeans to these three nationalities is quite significant.

The level of unwillingness to have people of different nationalities as neighbours in respect of most nationalities tested is quite high. It is highest for Palestinians (at 95.3%) and for Arabs (93.7%). Next come Africans (at 90%) and Jews (at 89%). The level of rejection for the remaining nationalities was recorded at: Europeans: 5%; Chinese or similar: 67.7%; Americans: 73% and Indians or similar: 78%.

Once more, one notices that younger persons are more willing to accept foreigners living next door than their elders, while some differences were noticed when the data were analysed by socio-economic groups. Thus, C2 members register a higher than average willingness to accept Chinese or similar as neighbours (36%); DE members register a higher than average willingness to accept Jews/Israelis as neighbours (14.3%); while C1 members register a higher than average willingness to accept Palestinians and Arabs as neighbours (at 9% in each case).

Political asylum

Political asylum accords shelter and protection to persons who cannot go on living in their native country. In this study, the Maltese were asked whether they thought that Malta should accord political asylum to persons who try to escape from their native land because of four different circumstances, namely (a) political persecution; (b) war; (c) civil war; and (d) hunger or mass poverty.

The findings show that the majority of the Maltese are not very forthcoming in extending asylum in any of the four cases tested. Only about 20% of the population appear to be willing to use this legal provision to help persons from other nationalities escape dramatic calamities in their own country.

When the data are analysed by gender, it appears that females are slightly more forthcoming than males: 35.5% females vs. 17% males are prepared to offer asylum in cases of political persecution; 25.5% vs. 15.6% are prepared to offer asylum in cases of war; 22.9% vs. 15% are prepared to offer asylum in cases of civil war; and 24.8% vs. 19% males are prepared to offer asylum in cases of hunger/mass poverty.

In all four cases, members of the AB socio-economic group were more forthcoming than any of the other groups. These data collected for this study clearly prove that DE members are significantly more xenophobic than other socio-economic groups.

Xenophobia is so extensive that only 16.7% are willing to give shelter to those who have been officially recognised as having fled from their country of origin and been accorded refugee status; 8.3% are definitely against, while the remaining 75% preferred not to express an opinion, thus showing that they are doubtful about this procedure.

No significant differences emerge when this set of data is analysed by age, but socio-economic groups once more show significant differences. Thus 29.7% of those in the AB socio-economic group favour giving shelter to officially declared refugees, in contrast to 21.6% of the C1; 12.1% of the C2 and only 6.6% of those in the DE socio-economic groups.

Significantly, this is reflected in the type of newspaper read. Of those who read The Sunday Times 23.7% are in favour of providing shelter for officially declared refugees; in contrast to 9.7% of those who read The Independent on Sunday; 13% of those who read KullHadd/it-Torca and 20% of those who read Il-Mument.

Skin colour

The colour of one's skin and the religion one professes are two of the main factors that are often found to be the basis of racism and xenophobia. To see the extent to which these are important factors operating in Maltese society, participants in this study were asked whether the colour of a person's skin affect what kind of treatment be accorded to him/her when being considered for political asylum and shelter? Only 17.3% unequivocally stated that everybody should be treated the same.

As many as 76.3% preferred not to offer an opinion while the remaining 6.3% stated that preference should be given to persons with white skin, clearly exhibiting a bias in favour of Caucasians. A more detailed analysis shows that the largest number of those who favour equality of treatment was registered among females (19.6% vs. males 15%), by those aged 51-65, at 18.3%; by persons in the AB socio-economic group, at 32.4%, and by readers of The Sunday Times, at 24.6%.

In respect of religious tolerance, the study sought to collect information on what the Maltese think on whether it should be possible for persons of a number of world religions to be given political asylum. The belief systems so tested are: Islam, Christianity, Judaism, African religions and atheism. The resultant data suggest that the same level of intolerance was shown to persons adhering to different religions.

Of all the religions, Islam receives the highest level of absolute No, at 79.3%, while Judaism registered 76.7% No; African religions registered 15.7% No and Atheism registered yet again a high 78% No. Only Christianity appears to be perceived slightly less of a threat, and registers a relatively low level of No, at 67.3%. However, the fact that all religions, Christianity included, received such high levels of No suggests that religion on its own is not the most important ingredient underlying the high level of racist intolerance among the Maltese confirmed by this study.

Even so, differences by socio-economic group are clearly noticeable: 35.1% of AB register a Yes for Islam, in contrast to only 6.6% among DE; again AB register 45.9% for Christianity in contrast to only 16.4% among DE. Similar trends apply to all the other religions: Judaism: AB: 37.8% vs. 8.2% among DE; African religions: 37.8% among AB vs. 8.2% among DE and Atheists: 32.4% among AB vs. 9.8% among DE. These findings are consistent with earlier findings that lower socio-economic groups are more xenophobic than the higher ones.

Ninety-two per cent hold that illegal immigrants should not be entitled to seek employment in Malta until their case is decided. Only 4.7% agree that this right should be accorded to them, while the remaining 3.3% did not offer an opinion.

A more detailed analysis of the figures shows that agreement on this aspect is widespread among the various sectors of Maltese society, except that females are more inclined to accord this right than males (females 7.2% vs. males 2%).

This study sought to discover what the Maltese think about a set of three 'conditions' to be imposed on persons who decide to settle in Malta: learning Maltese; becoming a Christian and, negatively, denial of Maltese citizenship. Interestingly, learning Maltese and converting to Christianity were not seen as necessary conditions to be imposed on persons who decide to settle in Malta permanently.

In fact nobody thought that learning Maltese should be a necessary condition, and only 1.3% believed that becoming a Christian should be enforced. But denying Maltese citizenship to such persons received a very solid endorsement. Only 6.1% were of the opinion that citizenship should not be denied, while 86.3% unequivocally said it should. The remaining 7.3% were in two minds and did not offer an opinion on the matter.

EU assistance

A final question in this study sought to enquire about the support among the Maltese population for the request for help made by the government to European Union countries to shoulder the burden of illegal migration.

A strong majority, 94.7%, agreed that the EU should indeed help Malta in this matter; 4% did not offer an opinion while just 1.3% do not think that the EU should have been brought into the matter at all. Strikingly, this last percentage goes up to 4.3% insofar as persons over 65 years of age are involved.

Socio-economic groups

AB - professional, managerial, administrative

C1 - higher clerical, clerical, supervisor, skilled craftsmen and technicians, owner/manager of small business

C2 - skilled manual workers and foremen

DE - semi-skilled, unskilled, labourers, casual workers and persons whose income is provided by the State.


http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=196289

[PERICLES]

The study shows exactly that the Maltese LOVE thier own RACE (as it should be). The report clearly tried to attack the Maltese people by calling them RACISTS. Even Michael Falzon did so in his article. I'm expecting a wave of opinionists in the next weeks which will try to ridicule the Maltese for showing that they do not want illegal immigrants. This is part of thew strategy. MAKE THE MALTESE FEEL GUILTY FOR BEING RACIST!!!! BEWARE MALTESE PEOPLE!!!! YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU SAID!!!!


It seems also that people who read l-orizzont are more inclined towards us. Good. The letters have surely helped :D

[Caesar]

The more I read articles from independant sources.... The more I feel that IE/ VM are right... Good work people.

[Marco Polo]

usual bullshit stating skin colour instead of race!!! of course its stupid to question treatment because of skin colour. ask the people about race you biased buffoons. you really do think that all people are stupid and gullable don't you?

as for the results, it is clear proof that there is very little insanity in this pleasant land.

[Positron]

nixtieq nistaqsi , hemm xi mod kiof il kumemnit taghna b xi mod jghaddu f idejn min hu inkarigat ? ifhem nahseb ga jafu x jahsbu il Maltin dwar din is sitwazzjoni ima hemm bzonn li il haga issir iktar pubbliak fil berah u mux inhallu lil media tikontrola kollox ( issoltu)


ramon

[lespaul87]

Messaġġ ċar iktar minn dak is-survey x'jista' jkollok, li nibdew intellgħu il-bnadar ta' l-IE fuq il-bjut?

[Angelfish]

Mela min jistghu ikunu dawk it-hree percent li huma favur l Afrikanizzazzjoni ta pajjizna? Three percent kemm jigu anyway , xi 30 tousand? Mela ,ejja nghamlu il kontijiet....xi erba telef illegali ta'kull xorta hawn Malta, xi erbat elef Mussulmani isallu mas-saqajn,xi ftit mijiet ta Maltin mejtin bil guh illi il hobza ta kulljum taghhom tiddependi mil prezenza tal illegali hawn Malta, fosthom dawk il "volontiera"lli ghandhom tip ta karika issalarjata ma NGO u xoghol iehor go NGO ohra, xi ftit eluf ta tfal u studenti brainwashed li qatt ma ghallm,uwhom l istorja ta Malta, ftit mijiet ta Maltiun b kemm Alla halaq lanzit ghas socjeta li ghexu fijha, xi 5 to 10 thousand overstayers, u xi ftit eluf ta erwieh twajba u genwini imma bil-vista mcajpra.
All accounted for I guess.
U dawn qed inhalluwhom ibighawlna lil pajjizna, u jgheddu lil gvern tal gurnata!!!!!!

[Angelfish]

Messaġġ ċar iktar minn dak is-survey x'jista' jkollok, li nibdew intellgħu il-bnadar ta' l-IE fuq il-bjut?
xi ftit tal gimghat ilu , Salvu Balzan tal Maltatodya kien qal illi dalwaqt il bandiera tan nofs qamar ha tperper min fuq kastilja u il bnadar hodor tal Islam jittajjru minn fuq il kazini!

[Positron]

Ifhem jista'j jkun ta ghandna il moseka ga taghhom issa x'jonqos li nibnulhom ? mineix kotnra nies ta religjon ohra ta tifmuniex hazin nahseb tafu x irrid nghid imma, li ma ridux inkomplu ntuom il pappa.

[PERICLES]

Ifhem jista'j jkun ta ghandna il moseka ga taghhom issa x'jonqos li nibnulhom ? mineix kotnra nies ta religjon ohra ta tifmuniex hazin nahseb tafu x irrid nghid imma, li ma ridux inkomplu ntuom il pappa.

Anzi mid-dehra ghalquhielhom il-moskea llegali li kien hemm f'Tas-Sliema.

[Admin]

Anzi mid-dehra ghalquhielhom il-moskea llegali li kien hemm f'Tas-Sliema.
U hemm bzonn li naghlqulhom il-moskea ta Kordin ukoll! Taf kif jisparaw il-barra!

[atheist]

it is incredible that the times is still talking about racism and xenophobia when the people have talked strongly very strongly throu its media.

Have a survey that show the picture of the maltese feelings, not just a few but of a big percent it should talked about the need for action.

AVE

[SetteCento]

Tiftakruh lill Norman Lowell fil meeting ta Hal Safi, Jannar li ghadda?? ??
Quote: IL-POPLU MAGHNA A NOVANTA PER CENTO! IL-POPLU X`ITRIDU JAHSEB?, IL POPLU GENWIN!!
Another prove that NL was absolute right again! 8 months after it is confirmed from the survey. Anzi ghall verifikazzjoni preciza il poplu zdied b` 7 percento aktar milli bassar l- istess Lowell.

Norman, next time hu ssieb li t`aggorna l- update!! ;)

[malsey]

jekk tghalaq il moskea ta rahal gdid. ibqa cert li dolores ittijhom id dar taghha. u il gizwiti johorgu bl idea li xi knisja indawruwa f moskea:D

[SetteCento]

Trid Tqis Fil Kuntest Taghom Dawn Aktar Il Quddiem Meta Jibdew Iridu Skejjel Specifikament Ghalihom U Cimiterji Dritt Ghall Manifestazzjonijiet Aperti U Dimostrazzjonijiet, Ghall Cimiterji Diga Ghawn Bliet F'malta Li Ma Ghandhomx Cimiterju Denju Pero Come Il Solito Naraw Kif Ser Niehdu Bicca Art Ohra Minn Din Malta Biex Is Somali Jidfnu Taghom, L- Ertrejani Wkoll, Cimiterju Iehor Ghal Musulmani ........... Jekk Idahlu Turkija Jestendu Tal Marsa, (dawk Diga Ghandhom Il Lest ) And The Story Goes On And On......

[Positron]

Heqq issa taf x'gejja jkunu jridu ezatt cimiterji apposta al musulmani ,xi skola ghalihom ( imma ghandikun ga hawn xi skoal ghall gharab ta. Xi moseka ohra imsoma u nibdew imbghad bl'allat kollha

[Beowulf]

The fatal mistake that the government, and other previous legislatures have done, is that land from our island had beeen given to the mouslims to build mosques, schools and cemetaries.
What either the politicians don't know or else they pretend so, is that the morality of us westerners, and that of the mouslims is very different.

In our churches, the priests preaches charity. In their mosques, their immam quotes the koran to spread the hatred of the jihad. He tells them to do a lot of babies so they can out number other populations with different religions. They recite prayers with violent wording in which they swear vengeance against any one who isn't a mouslim. All this is done in the presence of children, so are brainwashed from a very young age.
Every mosque has at least one minaret. That f**cken' high tower, from which the immam calls the bastards for prayer. How we be sure that it's only what it appears to be? All that height is ideal for communications antennae, and even to house a small sophisticated radar system. Apart from that, can anybody mention me a better position into which a deranged marksman brainwashed by mohammed, can climb and pull his trigger upon innocent civilians?


Not are only their teaching methods in shools different from us, but so are their subjects. Yes they study maths, and other accademic subjects, but it's not immoral for them to hold class lesson in which children are introduced to the 'military'. While our European kids, sings ba ba black sheep and plays with a teletuby, the mouslim kid, can be brandishing a Kalshnikov or an RPG-7 learning how it funtions and how to shoot it, and howling the war-cry:"Allah-hu l- akbar!..."
It is not a rare case that terrorists have been trained from young ages in schools in making molotov-coctails, home-made expolsives, grenades, etc. Malta won't be a special case. Is some one responsable of paying visits to these schools, to check what those regged-pigs are teaching their children?...


If nobody is inspecting their schools (because they will protest that it's against human rights) then obviously nobody will do so to their cemetaries. (oh it's a sacred land.) But what is a better hiding place than a grave-yard??? It's full of them bloody holes, each 6 feet deep. You can put everything down there; rifles, explosives, det-cord, grenades, mines, rocket-launchers, mortars, and believe me even a small disassembeled artillery piece. They will just put a false tomb-stone on the top, faking it all...
To the Gahan, these things are so shoking, that they may seem that they will only hapen far away from our coasts. But we must remember this: the Mouslim living here, reads the same koran like the one in Afghanistan - their concept of jihad is till the same. The fact that ours is but a civilised country will not help - Bin Laden's family has lived in the USA for hears.
The Gahan may not realise that all this can be true untill it's too late. Someone has to open his mind and inform him that he has been betrayed by his government when it gave a mosque, a school and a cemetary to the mouslims residing here peacefully.:mad:

[Marco Polo]

......and they've been doing it in the UK for years

[Abramortiis]

Ave,


What an excellent post GHOSTDEJMA! We should prepare ourselves as they are already here!


I have friends who reside in Paola where their mosquito thing is build, they have told me on more than one occasion that every time they do meet for their usual prayers they Jam pack the streets and let nobody pass with their cars - especially Maltese.


In Paceville I am a good friend of Jimmy the guy who owns that little take away - Libyans do go there all the time - they simply think that Maltese own to Libya and its their right to stay in Malta. I even met Libyans that are married to Maltese and came here back in the early 90's.


Once I heard that there are about 15.000 Libyans residing in Malta - The same thing will happen if we do not stop these illegal mortals from Africa coming over. Maltese people will eventually become foreigners in their own home land!

MALTA HAS TO WAKE UP NOW and FIGHT - BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

Abramortiis

[Mirko]

The fight has already begun, nature also chose our leader in this battle of survival. Il-kbir ghadu gej.

[SetteCento]

Ghost I have been reading your great post you posted on the 17th of August thought more than 6 months later now!
I feel that this must be reactivated again for the general attention of the viewers in the light of the recent violent accidents. Proset indeed. You are very sensitive in your writings that I must say many times you reflect in the deep think of it. Proset again!

[Beowulf]

Ghost I have been reading your great post you posted on the 17th of August thought more than 6 months later now!
I feel that this must be reactivated again for the general attention of the viewers in the light of the recent violent accidents. Proset indeed. You are very sensitive in your writings that I must say many times you reflect in the deep think of it. Proset again!

Settecento tista tighdli kif irnexxielek issiba dik il- post? ghax ili inqalleb gol- forum xi 3 gimghat niprova infittixa - minn meta rebhu l- elezzjoni l- hamas, biex inkun ezatt.

[SetteCento]

Settecento tista tighdli kif irnexxielek issiba dik il- post? ghax ili inqalleb gol- forum xi 3 gimghat niprova infittixa - minn meta rebhu l- elezzjoni l- hamas, biex inkun ezatt.
I remembered some old post that i did in those times and therefore surprisingly there was your's magnificent one!;)
Ghost, aslike my mother i got a very good memmory!;)