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Artist
13thJune2005, 21:03
More illegal immigrants brought to shore by Roberta Scerri, di-ve news (robsce@di-ve.com)

http://www.di-ve.com/image-jpeg.dyn?imageId=187671

VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news) -- June 13, 2005 -- 1909CET - The Armed Forces of Malta (AFM) have intercepted a boat approximately 10 nautical miles East of Malta carrying about 27 illegal immigrants.

The AFM Maritime Squadron at the moment are bringing ashore the illegal immigrants at Haywharf where they will be given medical assistance and than handed over to Immigration Police for further investigations.

malsey
13thJune2005, 21:16
qas li jtuwhom dghajsa imkisra ma ghadni nemmen. dawn il jumejn kien bahar qawwi,u dawn waslu hawn qisu xejn ma hu xejn. :mad:

More illegal immigrants brought to shore by Roberta Scerri, di-ve news (robsce@di-ve.com)

http://www.di-ve.com/image-jpeg.dyn?imageId=187671

VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news) -- June 13, 2005 -- 1909CET - The Armed Forces of Malta (AFM) have intercepted a boat approximately 10 nautical miles East of Malta carrying about 27 illegal immigrants.

The AFM Maritime Squadron at the moment are bringing ashore the illegal immigrants at Haywharf where they will be given medical assistance and than handed over to Immigration Police for further investigations.

Artist
13thJune2005, 21:18
Dan huwa piz zejjed fuq il-pajjiz.
Araw se taghmlu illum qabel ghada.
Ma nistghux nibqghu sejrin hekk.

umberto
13thJune2005, 21:21
jien semmejt referendum fuq tibdil ta' ligi, ghalkhemm simbolika. Imma hadd ma ta' kaz, imkien. Kull ma trid tigbor il-firem il-belt.


l-ebda gvern ma jhobb referendum.

malsey
13thJune2005, 21:21
u le artist, ma tarax, inkella skont il jrs u maria shranz ikun hawn domanda ghax xoghol iktar mis supply:mad:


Ghandek pm artist ara naqra.

Apollo{{
13thJune2005, 21:27
Why the hell do our forces bother to get them...they dont even want to come to Malta! Its become impossible to go out of home and not meet them everywhere! They are worse than FLEAS!

Artist
13thJune2005, 22:06
Umbaghad mur oqghod bit-Taljani.
L-anqas dawn ma' jriduhom.

Artist
13thJune2005, 22:29
jien semmejt referendum fuq tibdil ta' ligi, ghalkhemm simbolika. Imma hadd ma ta' kaz, imkien. Kull ma trid tigbor il-firem il-belt.


l-ebda gvern ma jhobb referendum.


Trid 30.000 firma. Trid thedded lill-Gvern li se zzommu responsabbli ta' kull impjieg li qed jintilef.

argo
13thJune2005, 22:33
jien semmejt referendum fuq tibdil ta' ligi, ghalkhemm simbolika. Imma hadd ma ta' kaz, imkien. Kull ma trid tigbor il-firem il-belt.


l-ebda gvern ma jhobb referendum.

Kif tista tibdel ligi internazzjonali li l-gvern bazwi li ghandna josserva? Jien naqbel li jsir xi haga fuq il-linja ta' gbir ta' firem. 90% tan-nies zgur jiffirmaw. Pero trid in-nies u organizzazjoni biex ma jkunx hemm duplikazzjoni jew falsificazzjoni bhal ma ghamlu darba l-GWU. Jien kont wiehed li ffalsifikawli l-firma tieghi.

Artist
13thJune2005, 22:41
Hekk hu argo, hija hafna difficli li tibdel il-ligi internazzjonali.
Imma jekk tigi ffirmata petizzjoni li tghid li se zzomm il-gvern responsabbli ta' kull impjieg li qed jintilef tahsibx li mhux se jiddejjaq minnha.

umberto
13thJune2005, 23:58
Prior to 1998 we had a 'restriction' in our refugee law, which due to our geographical size, allowed for some reservations. EFA removed them hastenly, such as to appease the EU. Any referendum to reinstate this clause is legitimate and if not symbolic, it will re-officialise our limitations and make for burden sharing.

International laws are nothing but obligations. But it should not matter. If the people want to change the law, recognising our society's limitations, it is up to the govt. to wake up and face the international community.

And if it is not enough, look below on the Swiss referendum. It wanted a tight UN observation. We are not for their removal, but in our case an official recognition.
The Swiss referendum did not pass, but if it did, no matter the criticism, govt. would have to oblige.

The lack of information, and lack of ideas, is our worst enemy.
People like referenda, govts. no.










http://www.statewatch.org/news/2002/nov/02switz.htm



UNHCR: Swiss referendum on total rejection of refugees

On 24 November 2002 the Swiss electorate will vote in a referendum on asylum proposals brought by the right wing People's Party. The Geneva based United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) has said that if adopted, Switzerland's asylum system will become one of the most restrictive in the industrialised world and result in genuine refugees not having their claims heard at all:


"If the Swiss people vote 'Yes' to this initiative, the result will be that any refugee who arrives in Switzerland overland will be rejected outright – however well-founded his or her claim might be... Since the great majority of refugees arriving in Switzerland come overland, this means the country will have more or less shut its doors to people fleeing persecution – even people who have escaped atrocities, massacres or torture." - UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Ruud Lubbers .

The UNHCR also criticised the "misleading" presentation of the proposals by the yes campaign suggested that the new law would breach the 1951 Geneva Convention on the protection of refugees. A yes vote would also greatly reduce the level of assistance provided to recognised refugees already present in Switzerland.

Artist
14thJune2005, 00:15
Umberto, trid tkun preparat hafna biex tigbor il-firem. Kif qal argo l-ewwel ma tridx taghmel zbalji ta' dak it-tip.

Mirko
14thJune2005, 00:26
fejn ikun hemm bzonn jien nghati l-ghajnuna ghal gbir ta` firem

umberto
14thJune2005, 00:36
almenu, hawn iehor.

jghaddu ghaxar snin u nibqaw nghidu iridu nkunu preparati.
L-AD x'ghandhom aktar? u sa jaghmlu wiehed.

Rox
14thJune2005, 00:47
firem u mhux firem mhux ha jissolva xejn. Dan il-pajjiz immexxi minn klikka ta laghqa. jaraw biss il-but u kif jidhru helwin mal-qalba.

kull sforz li jsir kontra dawn it-"turisti" ha jigi mahnuq. Issa iktar u iktar qeghdin fl-EU. Kulhadd nahseb innota li li tiddecidi l-EU (il-kbar li hemm madwar mejda BISS) jintogbu jew ma jintogbux li jghidu huma xorta jibqaw ghaddejjin (harsu lejn it-trattat li gie michud minn 2 membri kbar). Jien nghidila demokrazija sfurzata. Jekk xi haga ma togghbhomx dawn jaraw kif itajruwa (ftakru f 'Haider).

jekk ma tindahalax l EU jidhol xi-patri difensur ta dawn it-"turisti" li jhobbuna hafna (Malta No Good tiftakruwa jew wahdi smajta ;) ?) jew jekk l-estremita tasal jidhol il- mitiku Peppi. Biss biss ftakru dak li sar P'ville is-Sibt li ghadda favur it-tfal tar-refuggjati (u nahseb mhux maratona f sena ha jkun hemm bzonn biex tlahhaq maghhom dawn).

Kontrollati eccessivament biex minn ghandu ragun jiehdu. Regoli fuq regoli u ligijiet fuq ligijiet. Dawn it-"turisti" huma hawn biex jibqaw. Biex jidhru mhux daqshekk ta theddida inghataw il-kelma ta refuggjat. It-tfal taghhom maltin ha jkunu ghax dawn il hin kollu ibaqqnu. Meta il-problema tkun kibret hafna hemm forsi naraw l-izball.

Il morali? Ghalaq halqek malti, hallas it-taxxi u ahdem ghalihom. Fil-fehma teighi partit politiku irid jcaqlaq kollox. Ma nemminx li dawn li ghandna huma imma wihed sura. Jekk ha nibqaw nistennew l EU b-soluzzjoni definittiva (li qatt ma hi gejja) dawn se jilhqu jsiru "settlers" mhux "refugees".

sahha l-ahwa

Mirko
14thJune2005, 01:05
il gbir ta firem mhux ha jsir biex jitkeccew l-immigranti llegali imma biex forsi il gvern jinduna li qbizna il-limit u ma nistawx inkomplu naccettaw iktar ghax ha nkomplu ngherqu.

Artist
14thJune2005, 01:07
Umberto, organizzata aktar minna u ifhimni.
Nahseb fuq din il-kawza naqblu t-tnejn mela ejjew niltaqghu u naraw x'inhu l-ahjar li jsir. Irid jaghti kontribut kulhadd.

Mirko
14thJune2005, 01:12
Umberto, organizzata aktar minna u ifhimni.
Nahseb fuq din il-kawza naqblu t-tnejn mela ejjew niltaqghu u naraw x'inhu l-ahjar li jsir. Irid jaghti kontribut kulhadd.

nistabilixxu data u post?

Artist
14thJune2005, 01:14
Rosmark, jekk nahdmu flimkien f'affarijiet li naqblu nistghu nbiddlu xi haga f'dan il-pajjiz.
Jekk il-pajjiz se jeghreq se neghrqu kollha f'daqqa.
Fuq kollox m'hemmx differenzi kbar bejnietna.
Umberto jaf x'qed nghid.
Issa f'idejk Umberto.

umberto
14thJune2005, 01:41
firem u mhux firem mhux ha jissolva xejn. Dan il-pajjiz immexxi minn klikka ta laghqa. jaraw biss il-but u kif jidhru helwin mal-qalba.

kull sforz li jsir kontra dawn it-"turisti" ha jigi mahnuq. Issa iktar u iktar qeghdin fl-EU. Kulhadd nahseb innota li li tiddecidi l-EU (il-kbar li hemm madwar mejda BISS) jintogbu jew ma jintogbux li jghidu huma xorta jibqaw ghaddejjin (harsu lejn it-trattat li gie michud minn 2 membri kbar). Jien nghidila demokrazija sfurzata. Jekk xi haga ma togghbhomx dawn jaraw kif itajruwa (ftakru f 'Haider).

jekk ma tindahalax l EU jidhol xi-patri difensur ta dawn it-"turisti" li jhobbuna hafna (Malta No Good tiftakruwa jew wahdi smajta ;) ?) jew jekk l-estremita tasal jidhol il- mitiku Peppi. Biss biss ftakru dak li sar P'ville is-Sibt li ghadda favur it-tfal tar-refuggjati (u nahseb mhux maratona f sena ha jkun hemm bzonn biex tlahhaq maghhom dawn).

Kontrollati eccessivament biex minn ghandu ragun jiehdu. Regoli fuq regoli u ligijiet fuq ligijiet. Dawn it-"turisti" huma hawn biex jibqaw. Biex jidhru mhux daqshekk ta theddida inghataw il-kelma ta refuggjat. It-tfal taghhom maltin ha jkunu ghax dawn il hin kollu ibaqqnu. Meta il-problema tkun kibret hafna hemm forsi naraw l-izball.

Il morali? Ghalaq halqek malti, hallas it-taxxi u ahdem ghalihom. Fil-fehma teighi partit politiku irid jcaqlaq kollox. Ma nemminx li dawn li ghandna huma imma wihed sura. Jekk ha nibqaw nistennew l EU b-soluzzjoni definittiva (li qatt ma hi gejja) dawn se jilhqu jsiru "settlers" mhux "refugees".

sahha l-ahwa

mela ma naghmlu xejn hu.
ghandek ragun fuq l-ahhar sentenza mija fil-mija.
ifhem jien bhalek qalbi maqtuwha jigifieri, imma tipprova iccaqlaq xi haga kulhadd ipixxi tahtu.
it-telfa hija kwantifikata, u tibdew tindunaw meta jibdew jiehdu aktar art ghalihom. u din irriversibli.

Artist
14thJune2005, 01:44
Umberto, mela ejja naghmlu xi haga u mhux paroli biss.

Angelfish
14thJune2005, 02:25
tghid kemm sa jkollna aktar irregolari godda sal ahhar tax xahar?
;)

Apollo{{
14thJune2005, 13:37
This morning at 830 I had an errand at Marsa near the parish church. In less than 15mins I saw such a large number of immigrants all over the place moving ahead with their nicely stolen jobs, that I was demoralized. Frankly, I felt I was not in Malta anymore. I wonder what the Marsa people feel.

umberto
14thJune2005, 18:06
and Birzebbuga, very unfortunately to the people living there and the place itself, Birz Abuja'.This is due to the vicinity of their new found town, Hal Far.
Unfortunately and with regret.

Abramortiis
14thJune2005, 21:32
Ave,

I agree with all of you and fully understand all of your points - yes something must be done A.S.A.P - otherwise we will all bare the consequences.

I am all out for a petition - we should involve all of the IE and Vivamalta.org supporters for this venture.

The following link will take you to an on-line free petition collecting and hosting - http://www.petitiononline.com/ (http://www.petitiononline.com/) . I suggest that we should come up with some focal points, add them on and start the petition A.S.A.P - we should start this one prior Norman Lowell arrival in Malta.

I'll look forward to your suggestions and ideas.

Best Regards,

Abramortiis

umberto
15thJune2005, 02:32
Wrong application of granting asylum. Fear of husband does not constitute an asylum claim. Nigeria is not a warring country, and this is a purely Nigerian legal case. Instead of tightening, we are being taken for a ride. Besides, Nigeria is large and stable enough to escape the savage (but normal in those parts of the world) husbands.


http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2005/06/12/t9.html
Asylum seeker seeks constitutional redress over appeals procedure
Matthew Vella

A Nigerian woman whose application for refugee status was refused by the Refugee Commission and confirmed by the Appeals Board has filed a constitutional application against Home Affairs and Justice Minister Tonio Borg, claiming that her rights for a fair hearing were violated by the Appeals Board under the European Convention of Human Rights.
Juliet Ebele Okana is claiming that if she returns to Nigeria she will be facing clear and present danger after her husband, from whom she is divorced, threatened her and her family in Nigeria. According to Okana, her husband Emanuel Okonkwo fired shots at her mother whilst she was in a car, killing the driver.
Okana is claiming she faces a threat to her life because she and her family practise a different religion to her husband and his family’s.
Her husband was charged with threatening Okana and holding her against her will but was released earlier this week after a Magistrates’ Court ruled that he should not have been arraigned under arrest and that it was not justified according to law.
Okana arrived in Malta at the end of 2003 where she filed an application for refugee status on the grounds that her divorced husband was threatening her in Malta and her family in Nigeria. Okana also filed reports to the Malta police personally and through her legal representatives, although these were not notified to her husband.
She applied for refugee status on 11 January 2004, but her application was instantly refused by the Refugee Commission a week after applying on 19 January 2004. She subsequently appealed the decision with the Appeals Board a few days later.
During the time her appeal was up for review, Okana said her mother had been attacked by her divorced husband, who fired shots on her car, killing the driver. She presented an affidavit of the events to the Appeals Board.
In March 2005, the Appeals Board informed Okana that her refused application for refugee status had been confirmed.
According to Okana’s constitutional application, the decision violates article 6 of the European Convention of Human Rights, which is also enshrined in Maltese law, claiming that she was not awarded a fair hearing in her appeal, leading to a decision taken without her knowing.
She also said the decision does not carry a reason for refusal, since the Appeals’ verdict carried its traditional one-liner, reporting to applicants that the appeal “cannot be upheld as it is manifestly unfounded according to law”.
Her lawyers claim the Appeals Board did not offer their motivations as to why her application for refugee status had been refused.
Okana’s case is currently the second constitutional application contesting the validity of the refugee application system. Next week, the case of asylum seeker Karim Barboush will continue in Court. Barboush, a 44-year old Iraqi asylum seeker, is seeking justice after enduring a fourteen-month long detention at the Hal-Far immigration reception centre.
Barboush was rearrested in October 2004 two days after a ruling of the Court of Magistrates had declared his detention illegal. He is asking the court to declare that his detention was against his fundamental human rights as enshrined in the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights, and article 34 of the Maltese Constitution, on protection from arbitrary arrest and detention.

Artist
15thJune2005, 02:41
This is the way how they are threatening Tonio Borg.
Ha naraw se taghmel Tonio Borg.
Forsi fl-ahhar turina li ghandek bajd.

etoile noir
15thJune2005, 09:06
how utterly disgusting to know that our taxes - what's left of them after feeding and housing these immigrants - are being spent on such frivolous court cases!

surely if this woman were maltese she would have been reprimanded and fined for filing a frivolous and vexatious Case? 2 weights, 2 measures .... so much for the courts of justice.

or are the jrs picking up the bill?

malsey
15thJune2005, 09:08
Qum fuq tieghek ministru borg. iktar kapaci tigbor voti jekk tkun kontra l immigranti, milli tilghaq il jrs, il jrs illum mieghek, ghada anka max xjaten immorru basta xi hadd li jkun irrid idahhal iktar immigranti go pajjizna.

argo
15thJune2005, 09:16
Are the Maltese Courts of Law aware that one of the main exports of Nigeria is fraud?

argo
15thJune2005, 09:26
Pisanu: clandestini minaccia per il Paese

Il ministro dell'Interno parla dei fatti di Varese e dice: «Chi entra in Italia violando la legge non sfugge a lavoro nero e delinquenza»

ROMA - «L'omicidio di Claudio Maggiorin conferma purtroppo che l'immigrazione clandestina rappresenta una minaccia crescente per la sicurezza e l'ordine pubblico nel nostro Paese». Lo afferma in una nota il ministro dell'Interno, Giuseppe Pisanu, commentando i fatti di Varese.
«Chi entra in Italia violando la legge - prosegue il responsabile del Viminale - difficilmente sfugge ai circuiti perversi del lavoro nero, della manovalanza criminale o della delinquenza di strada». Per Pisanu, «le dimensioni e la pericolosità del fenomeno non ammettono tregue nell'azione di contrasto, così come, d'altra parte, la sua complessità esclude semplificazioni illusorie. In ogni caso, nessuno spazio può essere lasciato a reazioni aberranti, al di fuori della legge».

http://www.corriere.it/Hermes%20Foto/2005/06/14/0II19MIA--140x180.jpg

Secondo il ministro, «quanto è accaduto a Varese deve far riflettere tutti coloro che, in un modo o nell'altro, nelle istituzioni o nelle piazze, si oppongono a qualsiasi forma di contrasto o anche solo di controllo dell'immigrazione clandestina. Assecondare questa tendenza, infatti, significa esporre le comunità locali a rischi crescenti di illegalità, creando anche le premesse per manifestazioni di intolleranza, razzismo e xenofobia che nessun paese civile può ammettere»
14 giugno 2005

http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Politica/2005/06_Giugno/14/pisanu.shtml

Mur are li kieku jghid dan il-kliem Toninu taghna kif jaqbzu fuqu l-Gizwiti u jghidulu "Hekk ghallimniek lilek meta kont San Alwigi? Ahna nippreparaw l-istudenti taghna biex meta jikbru ikollhom karriera li biha jkunu jistghu ikomplu jghinu il-moviment tal-Gizwiti." Speci ta' familja kibira simili ghas-sistema li nsibu fi-Sqallija. :rolleyes:

Marco Polo
15thJune2005, 10:20
i wonder if the costs of these court cases are included in the figures the government states the immigrants cost? i doubt it!

malsey
15thJune2005, 12:09
l italja waslu f point of no return. ghalhekk pisanu qed jgholli naqra rasu, il lega nord, issa kullhadd sar jifimhom,, x kienu jghidu. ilbierah rajna ili qtil brutali ta taljan. pero il poplu irribatta, ghax hareg kontra l albanizi. dan ghadu biss il bidu, ta glied etniku go l eu. Malta is sitwazzjoni tkun tragida tant kemm ahna zghar

Rox
15thJune2005, 16:43
Gawdi malta.... ghal uliedna u ghal pajjizna

June 15 2005 1500CEST
AFM rescue illegal immigrants
The Armed Forces of Malta on Tuesday assisted a boat carrying about 35 irregular immigrants that was adrift off Filfla. The migrants were taken to the Maritime Squadron, at Hay Wharf, in Pieta, where they were given medical assistance and were handed over to the immigration police for further investigation .

i think it is better to vote a budget for a passenger terminal at haywharf. There is a lot of tourist attraction every summer.

Ave

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 16:45
is anybody counting? Cause i lost my count!



Gawdi malta.... ghal uliedna u ghal pajjizna

June 15 2005 1500CEST
AFM rescue illegal immigrants
The Armed Forces of Malta on Tuesday assisted a boat carrying about 35 irregular immigrants that was adrift off Filfla. The migrants were taken to the Maritime Squadron, at Hay Wharf, in Pieta, where they were given medical assistance and were handed over to the immigration police for further investigation .

i think it is better to vote a budget for a passenger terminal at haywharf. There is a lot of tourist attraction every summer.

Ave

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 16:47
Immigranti illegali
Editorjal 15ta gunju

Donnu li l-wasla ta’ aktar immigranti illegali – jaslux hawn ghax riedu jew le huwa immaterjali – m’ghadhiex “ahbar”. Tant qeghdin frekwenti dawn il-wasliet li issa l-media ftit li xejn taghtihom importanza, ghajr kemm tirregistra l-wasla.

Madankollu ma jfissirx li l-istorja tkun ghalqet hemm! Anzi tkun ghadha kemm bdiet. Ghax qieghed jigri li jekk fic-centri ta’ detenzjoni ma ssehhx xi haga kbira allura kollox jibqa’ ghaddej. Imma sadattant x’ikun ghaddej?

Huwa fatt li ghandek mijiet ta’ nies mizmumin fi spazju ristrett. Mijiet ta’ nies ma jaghmlu xejn. Ma jafux kif se jqattghu l-gurnata. Minghajr ebda hjiel ta’ x’se jkun il-futur taghhom. Trid jew ma tridx it-tensjoni fosthom dejjem tizdied.

Fuq in-naha l-ohra ghandek ghadd sostanzjalment kbir ta’ membri tal-forzi ghaz-zamma ta’ l-ordni litteralment lejl u nhar ghassa ma’ l-immigranti illegali. Rizorsi umani li certament li jista’ jsir uzu ahjar minnhom. Anke fost dawn hemm it-tensjoni. Ma rridux ninsew li kulhadd tad-demm u l-laham. Ma rridux ninsew li mhux kulhadd jissaporti l-istess rimarki, jekk mhux ukoll insulti, minn min lilu qieghed tipprovdi ikel u saqaf fuq rasu. Sfortunatament dawn mhux l-ewwel darba li jitqiesu bhala l-barriera bejn l-immigranti illegali u l-libertà. Li mhux il-kaz.

Kull tant zmien tisma’ li gara xi haga f’xi wiehed mic-centri ta’ detenzjoni. L-ahbar li tohrog x’aktarx li tkun wahda ta’ dwejjaq. L-aktar ricenti kien suwicidju ta’ zaghzugh Liberjan. Zaghzugh fl-ahjar ta’ hajtu li min jaf minn x’hiex ghadda biex telaq illegalment minn pajjizu sakemm spicca hawn fostna. Ironiku l-fatt li dan iz-zaghzugh harab minn pajjizu ghal futur ahjar biex il-futur li fittex wasslu ghal suwicidju.

Il-media ghadha mizmuma milli zzur dawn ic-centri. Ir-raguni jafha l-Gvern. Hi x’inhi r-raguni, ir-restrizzjoni lill-media aktar twassal ghal spekulazzjoni. Aktar twassal biex tahseb li hemm min irid jahbi xi haga. Li f’dawn i-centri mhux kollox miexi kif ghandu jkun.

Ricentement dan il-gurnal hareg bi storja dwar kif it-tobba qeghdin jirrifjutaw li jmorru jaraw immigranti illegali f’dawn ic-centri. It-tobba gabu aktar minn raguni wahda ghal dan. Ragunijiet li jvarjaw. Stennejna r-reazzjoni ta’ l-awtoritajiet koncernati dwar din l-istorja. Xejn. Skiet ta’ qabar. Ghaliex?

Sadattant wasla ta’ aktar immigranti illegali tfisser aktar problemi, bid-dawl f’tarf il-mina, jekk hu dawl, ikompli jitbieghed. Is-sitwazzjoni tiggrava billi tipprova tahbiha.

Source (http://www.l-orizzont.com/news.asp?newsitemid=19856)

Artist
15thJune2005, 16:58
Blablabla.... il-labour jikkritika u ma jghidilnix x'inhi s-soluzzjoni.
Is-soluzzjoni hija 1-2-3 BARRA.

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 17:03
Stennejna r-reazzjoni ta’ l-awtoritajiet koncernati dwar din l-istorja. Xejn. Skiet ta’ qabar. Ghaliex?

Sur Editur,

Ha nghidlek ghaliex hawn skiet ta qabar! Ghax iz-zewg partiti kbar preferew jtellghu lil lowell il-qorti biex jghalqulu halqu milli biex isolvu il-problemi.

Nies tal-pulse kitbu fil-gazzetta tieghek, li jaqblu mac-censura! u li kienu kuntenti li lowell gie mwaqqaf milli jitkellem. Issa sur editur toqghodx tiskanta ghax ikun hawn skiet ta qabar f dan il-pajjiz! M hux hekk tridu intkom! M hux hekk jaqblilkom!

Go Vivamalta bhalissa, m hawnx skiet ta qabar! Min jrid jidhol hawn huwa welcome! Kulhadd lest ghal diskusjoni! Hadd m hu se jkun iccensurat!

Rox
15thJune2005, 17:06
more shit... my God!!

http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=187992

how low can we go?????

Rox
15thJune2005, 17:13
@patriaomuerte

well said mate .... could not be more specific and to the point.

Artist
15thJune2005, 17:13
Araw x'inhu gej ghal Malta.
Morru l-bbq u oqghodu kantaw idjoti.
La Malta ma tkunx aktar tal-Maltin umbaghad ibku!

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 17:25
Amount of refugees in open centres to rise to 1,000

by di-ve news | Source (http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=187992)

(http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=187992)VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news)--June15, 2005-1540CEST-- The amount of migrants at open centres in the next two months is expected to rise to 1,000 while those in closed centres will decrease to 270.

This was stated during a press conference addressed by Fr Alfred Vella and Mons. Philip Calleja from the Emigrants Commission, during which activities to mark the World Day of Refugees on Saturday were announced.

They said that recently, those immigrants who did not comply with the requisites for refugee status and could not be sent back to their country, were given freedom after they had been detained for 18 months. These amount to 905: 677 were men, 137 women and 91 children. If these had to be added to the 950 who joined their families or friends outside Malta, the amount would double.

Of these 245: 90 men, 90 women and 65 children, are staying at the residence managed by the Emigrants' Commission. Thus the total amount of refugees staying at this centre has increased to 318.

Currently there are 396 persons who are being detained in Malta after entering the country illegally and are still waiting for their refugee status application to be processed. The majority of these, 105, are staying at Floriana; 53 at SAG; 215 at Safi and 23 at Lyster.

In about two months' time, these are expected to decline to 126, as they will be sent to open centres.

Next Saturday activities to mark the World Day of Refugees will be held near Balzan's Parish Church and inside the yard of Bon Pastur Convent. These are expected to bring the Maltese people closer to these persons and learn about their needs. This year's slogan will be: "Courage".

Various stands will be set up in which the refugees will be holding various activities including exhibitions and food. While the band Kilimangaro whose members are all refugees, is expected to perform. Maltese artists Miriam Christine Borg and Vince Fabri are also expected to participate. The Archbishop of Malta Joseph Mercieca and the President Edward Fenech Adami are expected to visit the activities.

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 17:28
Maltese artists Miriam Christine Borg and Vince Fabri are also expected to participate.

Din hija l-istess wahda li go program li jismu "tista tkun int!" bghatuha gita b xejn ghal brazil biex tara il-familja taggha! Din issa malta tahdem bhala teacher .. jigifieri tiflah thallas ghal gita sal brazil.

Ejja nghidu li malta tlifna il-priorities! Nibdew nibojkotjaw diski ta nies bhal dawn! Ma haqqhomx ahjar!

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 17:30
The amount of migrants at open centres in the next two months is expected to rise to 1,000 while those in closed centres will decrease to 270.

Can somebody like EN or the aritist or any other compitent person explain the difference between an open centere and a closed centre! I cannot understand the difference so please help!

Artist
15thJune2005, 17:50
An open centre.
Jiehu il-kolazzjon. (menu)
Umbaghad imur ghand il-monsinjur ha jaghtih it-telecard biex icempel lil hutu u jghidilhom biex jigu ghax ghalihom hawn genna ta' l-art.
Umbaghad imur ghall-ikla ta' nofs in-nhar. (menu)
Imur ghand is-soru ha taghtih il-hwejjeg tad-ditta.
Jibqa' sejjer kuntent biex ibaqqan lil xi wahda b'xejn, jekk ma jsibx b'xejn imur il-Gzira u jhallas mill-flus li jkun capcaplu xi gizwita.
Imur lura ghall-ikla ta' filghaxija (menu).

Dan hu open centre.

...u l-Malti jahdem bhal baghal minn filghodu sa filghaxija u jhallas it-taxxi.:mad:

Admin
15thJune2005, 18:15
An open centre.
Jiehu il-kolazzjon. (menu)
Umbaghad imur ghand il-monsinjur ha jaghtih it-telecard biex icempel lil hutu u jghidilhom biex jigu ghax ghalihom hawn genna ta' l-art.
Umbaghad imur ghall-ikla ta' nofs in-nhar. (menu)
Imur ghand is-soru ha taghtih il-hwejjeg tad-ditta.
Jibqa' sejjer kuntent biex ibaqqan lil xi wahda b'xejn, jekk ma jsibx b'xejn imur il-Gzira u jhallas mill-flus li jkun capcaplu xi gizwita.
Imur lura ghall-ikla ta' filghaxija (menu).

Dan hu open centre.

...u l-Malti jahdem bhal baghal minn filghodu sa filghaxija u jhallas it-taxxi.:mad:
Kif ha nghamel biex napplika?

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 18:57
They are just passing the buck. Send themention and then they fail their refugee application then we send to an open centre which mean, in the towns and villages of Malta.


Dak il hamalu ta Mons Calleja ghax ma rax kemm bat nies Maltin L'Awstrajla u USA u il-Kanada. Ja bicca ta ipokrita bhalu. Dak sejjer il genna jew?:eek:

jien u int ghal genna glad? ghax filkas ha jkollna noqghodu nduru bieh! :eek:

malsey
15thJune2005, 18:58
Jiena l universita kont staqsejt biex niehu refugee status, imma qaluli ma tistax.

patriaomuerte
15thJune2005, 19:00
Jiena l universita kont staqsejt biex niehu refugee status, imma qaluli ma tistax.

M intx samrani bizzejjed mals? :eek:

argo
15thJune2005, 19:14
Even more shit:

June 15 2005 1500CEST
AFM rescue illegal immigrants
The Armed Forces of Malta on Tuesday assisted a boat carrying about 35 irregular immigrants that was adrift off Filfla. The migrants were taken to the Maritime Squadron, at Hay Wharf, in Pieta, where they were given medical assistance and were handed over to the immigration police for further investigation

that was on di-ve.com today.

Apollo{{
15thJune2005, 19:25
These reports have become the rule of the day.. the only 2 variables to be filled in by the reporter are:

1. No of illegals
2. Location found

Malta has become immune to these reports

Artist
15thJune2005, 21:01
Min irid japplika biex jidhol fl-open centre jista' jcempel lis-servizz tar-refjut jew direttament lil Mons Calleja.

umberto
15thJune2005, 21:16
1000 hija figura alarmanti immens.

Ta' l-Orizzont, bir-rispett kollu hafna paroli u ma jghidx soluzjonijiet.

Kif ghidt qabel, ibdew indunaw li qed nitilfu meta tittiehed aktar art ghal kolonizazzjoni taghhom.

Jekk jinfetah centru iehor, u ma ssirx protesta, kif ghamlu l-inglizi, allura ta' xejn qedin hawn u nistaw nzarmaw. Avolja, ga nofs il-battalja mitlufa.
F'idejkhom........

malsey
15thJune2005, 21:26
Il president ta malta, u l isqof merciaqa iddecidew li jmorru ghar refuggee day gewwa hal balzan ta nhar il hadd.

Prosit lilhom it tnejn, vera qed tahdmu ghall interess ta malta.

Siobhan
15thJune2005, 22:11
What a disgrace:mad:

malsey
15thJune2005, 22:54
Jmissu jisthi eddie, ma stennejtiex minnu.

Malèna
16thJune2005, 09:45
http://www.maltafly.com/images//monopoly.jpgmaltafly.com

Marco Polo
16thJune2005, 09:52
i loved that one

Malèna
16thJune2005, 21:17
source:
http://www.maltarightnow.com/news/portal.asp?module=article&t=a&aid=3087&cid=19 (http://www.maltarightnow.com/news/portal.asp?module=article&t=a&aid=3087&cid=19)






Maltarightnow.com




KLANDESTINI : L-allarm ta' Tony Abela, "qed nistennew tsunami uman"
Miktub: 16/06/2005 19:06:39
Awtur: Karl STAGNO NAVARRA http://www.maltarightnow.com/content/images/KLANDESTINI%20DISPERAZZJONI.jpg


AUGUSTA (Sqallija) - "Mill-kosta t'Isfel tal-Mediterran hu mistenni tsunami uman". Kienet din it-twissija mlissna mis-Segretarju Parlamentari Tony Abela waqt konferenza ta' l-aħbarijiet abbord il-bastiment navali Taljan 'Mimbelli' waqt il-manuvri militari 'Canale 05' li għaddejjin bħalissa bejn il-qawwiet Taljani u l-Forżi Armati Maltin, bil-parteċipazzjoni wkoll ta' diversi flotot Mediterranji oħra bħal Franza, l-Greċja, l-Marokk u Spanja.

Tony Abela sostna li minn rapporti ta' intelligence jirriżulta li huma madwar miljun l-immigranti li "huma lesti biex jinvaduna". Fl-istess ċirkostanza, Abela żied, 'neħtieġu nkunu preparati li ngħidu issa daqshekk, iżda neħtieġu nagħmluha lkoll flimkien, għaliex dak li beda hu biss il-bidu tal-battalja".

Waqt il-konferenza ta' l-aħbarijiet, is-Segretarju Parlamentari Tony Abela, inedika l-problema ta' l-immigranti klandestini f'Malta u kif il-Gvern Malti qed jagħmel minn kollox biex jilqa' u jżomm lill-immigranti. Dan kollu, spjega Abela qed isir fl-isfond tan-nuqqas ta' riżorsi li neħtieġu biex inkunu nistgħu insostnu dan il-fenomenu.

Fi kliem Tony Abela, matul is-sena li għaddiet, waslu aktar immigranti milli twieldu trabi ġodda f'Malta, filwaqt li l-piż finanżjaru qed iwassal lill-Gvern biex jikkoreġi l-budgets tiegħu. Il-problema immigranti klandestini qed tfisser pressjoni ta' 15 fil-mija fuq in-nefqa kollha tad-difiża u s-saħħa tal-pajjiż.

source:
http://www.maltarightnow.com/news/portal.asp?module=article&t=a&aid=3087&cid=19 (http://www.maltarightnow.com/news/portal.asp?module=article&t=a&aid=3087&cid=19)

PERICLES
16thJune2005, 21:22
Double post Malena.

Rox
17thJune2005, 16:33
unbelievable bollocks, the joke of the millenium.....

http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=188670

maltese people needed to host more refugees......... this is what i call the point of no return.

ave all..... addio Malta

PERICLES
17thJune2005, 16:41
unbelievable bollocks, the joke of the millenium.....

http://www.di-ve.com/dive/portal/portal.jhtml?id=188670

maltese people needed to host more refugees......... this is what i call the point of no return.

ave all..... addio Malta

Malta prepares for more illegal immigrants by di-ve news

http://www.di-ve.com/image-jpeg.dyn?imageId=188672


VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news)--June 17 2005 -- 1430CEST--Contingency plans have been drawn up by government to cope with a possible new influx of illegal immigrants, Social Solidarity Minister Dolores Cristina said.

This move was thought in the event of a sudden big influx of illegal immigrants that would certainly create a crisis.

Addressing a press conference on an information campaign about asylum seekers to mark the World Refugee Day, Ms. Cristina appealed for more people to provide shelter to these immigrants.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR ) in Malta, Walter Irvine admitted that the international community developed systems to satisfy only part of the refugees' needs. He said that now the challenge is to draw up a plan to cater for the continuous influx of illegal immigrants.

Mr. Irvine said that Malta could alleviate its burden by applying less restrictive measures. At the same time, he praised government for reducing the detention period and opening a new centre in Marsa.

He said that the Commission is aware that the native people was not fully understanding what it entails to be a refugee and this is creating a lot of tension between the two parties.



Contingency plan???? Oh my God......thousands are coming!!!! :( :( :(

malsey
17thJune2005, 16:44
Prosit Dolores Cristina Ta Kemm Qed Tahdem Fl Interess Ta Malta. Jehtieg Inwaqqaw Dan Il Gvern Kemm Jista Jkun Malajr, Issa Too Much. L Mlp Jehtieg Icaqlaq Naqra Demmu Wkoll, U Jghid Issa Daqshekk,(jekk Hemm Bzonn Jghida Tony Zabr:d ) U Minn Jigi L Hawn Nergaw Nibghatuh Lura.


Grazzi Dolores, The Woman Of My Nightmares

argo
17thJune2005, 16:46
I am posting the text from the above link just in case it disappears.


Malta prepares for more illegal immigrants by di-ve news


VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news)--June 17 2005 -- 1430CEST--Contingency plans have been drawn up by government to cope with a possible new influx of illegal immigrants, Social Solidarity Minister Dolores Cristina said.

This move was thought in the event of a sudden big influx of illegal immigrants that would certainly create a crisis.

Addressing a press conference on an information campaign about asylum seekers to mark the World Refugee Day, Ms. Cristina appealed for more people to provide shelter to these immigrants.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR ) in Malta, Walter Irvine admitted that the international community developed systems to satisfy only part of the refugees' needs. He said that now the challenge is to draw up a plan to cater for the continuous influx of illegal immigrants.

Mr. Irvine said that Malta could alleviate its burden by applying less restrictive measures. At the same time, he praised government for reducing the detention period and opening a new centre in Marsa.

He said that the Commission is aware that the native people was not fully understanding what it entails to be a refugee and this is creating a lot of tension between the two parties.


This comment by this foreigner Irvine is way over the top. Go get lost where you came from. It is yourself who does not understand our situation. You form part of the UN which is one of the most inefficient and unaccountable institutions in the world. And I am being kind here. Why doesn't the UN go and solve these problems in Africa and not push them on us an island of a few square kilometres. With people like Dolores Cristina and this Irvine we need no enemies.

malsey
17thJune2005, 16:56
TRID MALTA AFRIKANIZZATA FI FTIT SNIN.


SOLUZZJONI WAHDA, IVVOTA DOLORES CRISTINA, IL MINISTRU MARA LI GONZI QAL LIN NISA MALTIN JIEHDU EZEMPJU MINNA:mad:

umberto
17thJune2005, 17:28
the people are indifferent.

why worry?

Florian Geyer
17thJune2005, 18:39
"The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR ) in Malta, Walter Irvine admitted that the international community developed systems to satisfy only part of the refugees' needs. He said that now the challenge is to draw up a plan to cater for the continuous influx of illegal immigrants."[dive news]

For what it is worth ,this guy is jewish:rolleyes:

patriaomuerte
17thJune2005, 18:41
Is dolores going to keep her fair share of illegal-immigrants in her house?

Admin
17thJune2005, 19:35
the people are indifferent.

why worry?

The people are indifferent because they are being kept that way by the media. If they know what the real situation were and what kind of future they can expect, there would be a revolt.

umberto
18thJune2005, 14:58
therefore, it is in the interest for those on this side to made them know the reality, revolt or no.

argo
18thJune2005, 16:06
"The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR ) in Malta, Walter Irvine admitted that the international community developed systems to satisfy only part of the refugees' needs. He said that now the challenge is to draw up a plan to cater for the continuous influx of illegal immigrants."[dive news]

With a proposed budget for 2005/2006 expected to reach just under $3 billion, the UN should go and solve these problems in Africa not ask us to get swamped by them. But The UN has long been run by incompetents like this Walter Irvine who is completely insensitive to the feeling of us suffering Maltese.

The population density in Malta is far in excess of what is healthy. WE cannot afford to keep increasing it, especially with the sort of people we get from Africa.