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Ergo
7thJune2005, 22:36
Political movement makes first apperance by Dorian Cassar, di-ve news (dorcas@di-ve.com)

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VALLETTA, Malta (di-ve news) -- June 07, 2005 -- 1935CET -- A new political movement made its first public appearance on Tuesday morning during the June 7, 1919 commemorations in Valletta. The movement, Moviment Laburista Popolari (MLP), was represented during the laying of wreaths ceremony by Dr Anna Mallia, former Labour Minister Alex Sciberras Trigona and former Labour Deputy Maria Camilleri.

The Movement aims at defending the rights of the Maltese people and those Labourites who suffered injustice. "The main aim of Movement is to spread out Labour beliefs and we urge Labourites to support us", said Movement representatives prior to the ceremony.

In the coming weeks the Movement will be announcing its plans.

Ergo.

PERICLES
8thJune2005, 00:01
We have to see whether they will contest the elections or not.

malsey
8thJune2005, 00:16
good for malta. the more the better.

Viva Malta

PERICLES
8thJune2005, 00:18
good for malta. the more the better.

Viva Malta

Remember they are our competitors Malsey.

Florian Geyer
8thJune2005, 00:18
good for malta. the more the better.

Viva Malta

is it?and if the nationalists stay as one?

Artist
8thJune2005, 00:28
The Nationalist are going to use Alternattiva Demokratika to maintain power.
Dawn l-aqwa li jkollhom il-ministeru ta' l-ambjent.
Hekk se jigi tradut il-poplu Malti.
If this happens it will be a shame.
Ifhem Gahan ifhem x'qed jippruvaw jaghmlu dawn.

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 00:28
Divide and conquer! excellent news.

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 00:30
Remember they are our competitors Malsey.

the more the mlpn are destroyed the better. they are the competitors.

Florian Geyer
8thJune2005, 00:33
the more the mlpn are destroyed the better. they are the competitors.

aahh..got you now.must be the potteries accent:D

Revolutionary
8thJune2005, 00:43
Tomorrow's headline on L-Orizzont!:

Gwerra Interna Fost Is-Soċjalisti Maltin! - Partit Laburista Ġdid Ma Jara L'Ebda Futur Politiku Għal Alfred Sant

... oh well, everyone has the right to dream...

malsey
8thJune2005, 01:01
better for mlp stay another 5 years in opposition, but then are truly prepared to take malta out of this mass. presently mlp cannot do it. they are too much divided. PN are divided too. We are the best:D

Artist
8thJune2005, 01:09
Tomorrow's headline on L-Orizzont!:

Gwerra Interna Fost Is-Soċjalisti Maltin! - Partit Laburista Ġdid Ma Jara L'Ebda Futur Politiku Għal Alfred Sant

... oh well, everyone has the right to dream...

Dan mhux se jinkiteb fin-Nazzjon.

Gwerra Interna Fost In-Nazzjonalisti Maltin.

Dawn kapaci jzommuha mistura mill-media.
Din hi d-differenza.

Revolutionary
8thJune2005, 01:22
The PN is already trying to use this new MLP to its advantage. NET News made the longest interview on the Maltese media with one of the spokepersons of the new party.

Obviously, One News didn't even mention them...

I'm sure that more Nationalists than Labourites know that the MLP has broken into two parties. Keep the electorate in ignorance, the usual way of the Left.

PERICLES
8thJune2005, 01:27
The PN is already trying to use this new MLP to its advantage. NET News made the longest interview on the Maltese media with one of the spokepersons of the new party.

Obviously, One News didn't even mention them...

I'm sure that more Nationalists than Labourites know that the MLP has broken into two parties. Keep the electorate in ignorance, the usual way of the Left.

They were given exposure also on TVM. The Labourites definitely know of them now.

Artist
8thJune2005, 01:28
Gonzu wants to bring again John Dalli on the Titanic.
Ma jridux ikompli jikxiflu sormu.

Admin
8thJune2005, 09:14
I don't agree with Marco and Malsey. This is not good news for us. We have a lot of supporters from the old Labour. If this new mlp contests, it is they who will get the old labour vote not us.

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 09:19
I don't agree with Marco and Malsey. This is not good news for us. We have a lot of supporters from the old Labour. If this new mlp contests, it is they who will get the old labour vote not us.

at the mo the mlp is almost certain of victory, better have someone weaken them a little. we can still pull labourites

divide and conquer!

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 09:21
to be honest, ideally we would have someone do the same to pn besides AD. The people that would vote for these break away parties would never vote for us anyway.

Admin
8thJune2005, 09:28
to be honest, ideally we would have someone do the same to pn besides AD. The people that would vote for these break away parties would never vote for us anyway.
In the case of the new mlp, they are pitching themselves as being there to safeguard the traditional labour values. If they play their cards right, by playing on the nostalgia for the "good old times", I think they cannot fail to get the vote of the traditional labourites who felt betrayed by Sant & co. Well, time will tell.

FORZAMALTA
8thJune2005, 10:24
As a political gain, I don't think it's beneficial for us. We can never get the arch PN and MLP supporters' votes. they will vote with their hearts. as usual. so they can go around Malta with horns and flags and get a job or a newpromotion!!

Our emphasis, should be concentrated on those who are feedup of their party and the floating voters.

1)Feed up of their party - Those on the PN side most of them will vote or AD, whilst those from the MLP side, we were in a good chance to get most of them. I know many many people who are Labour or ex-Labour who support our ideas. All of them are anti-church, which will be easy for them accept our views. Who are our enemies? The Church! But since they have a movement closely aligned to their views, it will be a bit difficult for us. For the PN supporters, it will be difficult to accept our views as they are arch catholics.

2)Floating Voters - If these so called floating voters have their country at heart, Yes we can get them. But my opinion on most floating voters is that they are only opportunists.

THE GAME IS ON!!

poseidon
8thJune2005, 13:13
I doubt how many followers this new party can attract. I think this party would be another of the stereotypes, promising job opportunities and equality.

On the other hand IE issue is greater. The problem IE is discussing, touches people's hearts more. Everyone knows that the majority of the population are against illegal immigration.

The only thing is that the manipulators in this country, (the manipulators being all means of popular media) are not addressing directly, the future problems which these immigrants will present. We at this forum know that our real threats will rise once these have children born here in Malta. They would be maltese and would have all the rights a maltese has.

On the other hand, IE, by showing these problems, would increase awareness. If feelers are sent in a right way, votants would grab the message. IE would gain symphaty. Votants might be tempted to go out of their usual way and consider a vote for IE.

It is only important that IE sends the message in an easy manner, moderate and in a direct way. I think for the time being IE need not be aggressive. Send the message right, directly, constantly highlighting the problems which our children would face and the outcome would be positive.
I strongly believe that perseverance leads to results.

Cristoforo
8thJune2005, 13:21
And what if this new MLP is anti-immigration? That would be interesting..

DVX_Jo
8thJune2005, 14:13
With due respect to all of you guys on Vivamalta dot org AND avemelita dot com ....

Anna Mallia has more BALLS than you lot put TOGETHER - and that is a FACT !!
Remember when we were toying with the idea of the Rightist Project ?
The end result was a cacca-sotto reply .... it is too early to put our (YOURs and not mine) heads on the block, we let them keep guessing and other defeatist talk.
Anna, Maria Camilleri and all those who put La Patria FIRST and FOREMOST are not afraid to be counted when the time to do so is ripe.
With Impervm Evropa acting as a yellow coward without showing its core-members the chances of getting 0.02% of the National Vote at a General Election is very remote !!
Interesting to note the name of this new political grouping :
MOVIMENT Laburista Popolari - the keyword is MOVEMENT.

So-called "Rightwingers" you have MISSED the bus !!!
Might as well change I.E. into a Boy Scout organisation.
Your political and serious REACTIONS to this post please - thank you.

A Noi !
Jo

Post Scriptum :
Any personal attacks on the undersigned will reveal political immaturity on the part of the poster and will render Norman Lowell very unhappy.

Norm - QUMM min hemm before it finally becomes the end for the RIGHTIST Project.

JMM

MODERATOR'S NOTE: PLEASE SET UP YOUR OWN BALLSY FORUM AND POST YOUR OPINIONS THERE.

VIVAMALTA.ORG HAS RULES & REGULATIONS WHICH YOU, TOGETHER WITH THE REST OF THE MEMBERS, ARE EXPECETD TO FOLLOW.

KINDLY CONSIDER THIS YOUR FINAL WARNING.

THANK YOU.

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 19:09
I would like to request the other members to ignore DVX Jo. It is quite clearly a provocation and a poor one at that. Quite frankly I think someone who doesnt know if he's PN, MLP or MLP mkII is not someone worth entertaining.

Florian Geyer
8thJune2005, 19:59
I would like to request the other members to ignore DVX Jo. It is quite clearly a provocation and a poor one at that. Quite frankly I think someone who doesnt know if he's PN, MLP or MLP mkII is not someone worth entertaining.

don't see what he's griping for. first and last time we had name calling on this forum was with kaiser franz,so what's his beef ?why is he namecalling all of a sudden?

FORZAMALTA
8thJune2005, 20:03
you should open a section for this guy in the jokes area!!!!

i wonder what balls anna mallia has...creating a party for excluded socialists !!

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 20:04
because he was placed under moderation at one time so has a chip on his shoulder.

Mazzola75
8thJune2005, 20:20
Dvx-Jo might have been rude but he has some points. I mean ( and I include myself) some of us are just faces behind the screen. However as far as I know IE does have 3 or 4 public speakers... Lowell (of course) and then the guy that appeared on Bondi + and Marco Polo and Malsey.

So IE is growing even as a party. Is still needs some structure though.

FORZAMALTA
8thJune2005, 20:31
yes he might said something ok, but to come here and start shouting we don't have balls it's a bit arrogant i think. and the new party all together, with all their balls all together cannot level to mr lowell's vision and patriotic love for this country

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 20:32
IMHO jo is an MLP mole, little else. right-wing parties will always struggle. those of the mlpn will prostitute themselves when the opportunity presents itself.

We know what we are doing. going all out now achieves nothing, you expect some kind of right-wing revolution on the streets? this is reality. Norman's court case is enough proof to show how far the parliamentary whores will go to silence us.

Has anyone thought that this new MLP might be actually encouraged by PN so that the orignal MLP vote is split (like their own). Just look at how the media squeals about this new MLP. I contacted ALL the local media about normans case and only Independent and l-orrizzont responded.

Florian Geyer
8thJune2005, 20:37
Dvx-Jo might have been rude but he has some points. I mean ( and I include myself) some of us are just faces behind the screen.quote [mazzola]

yes mazzola,if you dont venture out and make the effort and DO SOMETHING ,that is all you will be, a face behind the screen agreeing with a shit stirrer. that goes for a few of the other "faces behind the screens":mad:

umberto
8thJune2005, 20:59
he is right, Anna Mallia has balls indeed.

Florian Geyer
8thJune2005, 21:16
he is right, Anna Mallia has balls indeed.

the thread is..New MLP in Malta.not what mr.x thinks

Marco Polo
8thJune2005, 21:20
to do what??????? to stand up as yet another mainstream politician????? what are her views on immigration?????

She is doing nothing special, she just quit her party and started another one. It's almost the same name!!!

poseidon
8thJune2005, 21:40
I think we can judge whether she has or not, once she outlines her ideas.

etoile noir
8thJune2005, 21:46
to do what??????? to stand up as yet another mainstream politician????? what are her views on immigration?????

She is doing nothing special, she just quit her party and started another one. It's almost the same name!!!

all true, however she did more than that. she made sure to rope in some "has beens" but well known socialists to give her "movement" some clout.

how else would she have gotten herself in the news? or is anyone demented enough to believe that this new pseudo socialist movement would have ever seen the light of day - or gotten 2 minutes of air time - without those socialist/mintoffian has-beens that are with anna mallia?

ye right. anna mallia has balls ..... and i'm friggin cleopatra!

we might not have gotten as much air time as anna mallia, however what we do, and what we have achieved, we have done on our own. we have never, nor shall we ever, kiss mlpn ass.

malsey
8thJune2005, 22:03
Lol cleopatra heeh:D

all true, however she did more than that. she made sure to rope in some "has beens" but well known socialists to give her "movement" some clout.

how else would she have gotten herself in the news? or is anyone demented enough to believe that this new pseudo socialist movement would have ever seen the light of day - or gotten 2 minutes of air time - without those socialist/mintoffian has-beens that are with anna mallia?

ye right. anna mallia has balls ..... and i'm friggin cleopatra!

we might not have gotten as much air time as anna mallia, however what we do, and what we have achieved, we have done on our own. we have never, nor shall we ever, kiss mlpn ass.

Malèna
9thJune2005, 00:35
Everybody have the right of opinion. Everyone have the right to express it in the best methodology he/she believes.

It is true that in a way, a member of this community attacked with irony this community, but it is also true that this community did not leave him hand in hand.

I am not here to judge anybody and I do not know the past of this particular member vis a vis VivaMalta.org but we must respect all (realistic) opinions.

Everybody have balls and everybody is free to use them how he/she wants to.

My opinion about MLP II is that their electoral campaign consisted only to see Dr. Alfred Sant's tragical expression seeing Dr. Anna Mallia walking with the flowers from heaven.

Artist
9thJune2005, 00:48
Dawn voti minn taghhom se jnaqqru. Ahna rridu nikkonvincu lil 'floating voters'. Dawn li jrebbhu u jtellfu elezzjoni generali.

PERICLES
9thJune2005, 00:48
Labour Movement spokesman to sue MLP official [08/06/2005]
Barely 24 hours from the political group’s public launch and the Popular Labour Movement’s Anna Mallia has declared she will sue the Malta Labour Party’s general secretary for libel. The new movement, whose Maltese title has an acronym similar to that of the Labour Party – MLP, was officially launched by Dr Mallia on Tuesday pledging to stick up for workers and serve disillusioned Labourites.


http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=breaking&date=20050608#78

Thumbs up for Anna!! Illibellah lil dak l-iskerz tan-natura!!!

Malèna
9thJune2005, 01:00
Pericles: Good job.

Artist: Excellent observation.


Challenging the MLP I is the only aim of the MLP II .

Let us just observe and laugh at these actors (clowns).

DiVx: VivaMalta will learn from the MLP II's mistakes and eventually the MLP II will learn from VivaMalta's developments.

bennej
9thJune2005, 07:11
PN better not inflate this MLP2 too much as the only party to loose from this is PN and potentially IE too.


This is not at all good for us.

malsey
9thJune2005, 07:47
This party will only help the gonzi to keep on his government. thats why sant should resign if he loves his party and country :mad:

IMPERIUM
9thJune2005, 12:22
PN better not inflate this MLP2 too much as the only party to loose from this is PN and potentially IE too.
This is not at all good for us.

MLP2 will never contest elections.
It is simply a pressure group within MLP1.
The aim is to unsaddle Dr Alf Sant.

This is the umpteenth time this is happening:
but Dr Alf Sant is super-glued to his chair!
You have to give it to him!

Dr Anna Mallia & Not Alex Sceberras Trigona:
are trying to save the soul of the MLP.
We may not agree with them - but we understand them.

Our adversaries are AD:
they are the worst of the lot.
The red herring for the floating voter.

We of The New Right:
are the real Alternative:
to the whole, decrepit system.

There is no difference:
between MLP1 and PN:
iz-zewg prostituti lesbici.

There is nobody else:
but US! of The New Right.
We can save this island.

Imperium
0506
Yorkshire Moors

SetteCento
9thJune2005, 12:55
This is the worst thing i could have heared! the worst amongs the worsts!
My only burning hope now is blewn off! yes.
Xi hadd qam u prezenta nnifsu cosi all improvviso quddiem il pubbliku!
E forsi ma ghandux l- adherenti li ghandna ahna s issa pero hareg u ppartecipa fic cerimonja statali!!! Il laburisti imxebbajn ser iduru man New Labour. definittivament! u aktar min hekk jekk issa tilghfab il loghba u tohrog titkellem kontra l- emigranti illegali.
We waited for to long konna imissna hrigna bhala movument meta Norman hareg ghall EP! bqajna kif tkellimt qabel qisna setta.Kollox mohbi u xejn fl apert.
Ejja nkunu onesti u nghidu illi ghal 3 problemi issa hemm 4!

Mario
9thJune2005, 13:04
Right. Since they wanted to detach themselves from the Malta Labour Party, why didn't they think of something else other than Moviment Laburista Popolari (MLP)? On the other hand, did they intend to detach themselves from the Malta Labour Party? Is there some kind of hidden agenda?

Thanks

Artist
9thJune2005, 13:08
This is the worst thing i could have heared! the worst amongs the worsts!
My only burning hope now is blewn off! yes.
Xi hadd qam u prezenta nnifsu cosi all improvviso quddiem il pubbliku!
E forsi ma ghandux l- adherenti li ghandna ahna s issa pero hareg u ppartecipa fic cerimonja statali!!! Il laburisti imxebbajn ser iduru man New Labour. definittivament! u aktar min hekk jekk issa tilghfab il loghba u tohrog titkellem kontra l- emigranti illegali.
We waited for to long konna imissna hrigna bhala movument meta Norman hareg ghall EP! bqajna kif tkellimt qabel qisna setta.Kollox mohbi u xejn fl apert.
Ejja nkunu onesti u nghidu illi ghal 3 problemi issa hemm 4!

WE CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE

12 organisations and local councils demand studies and consultation for new fuel storage facilities

Source taken from the Indipendent
Nature Trust Malta, Din l-Art Helwa, Friends of the Earth Malta, BirdLife Malta, Moviment Graffitti, Ceratonia Foundation, Grupp Arkeologiku Malti, Malta Organic Agriculture Movement, Zminijietna, Third World Group Argotti Botanic Gardens, Alternattiva Demokratika, Ghaxaq local council and Gudja local council are concerned by the lack of consultation on the most likely site for the relocation of the Enemalta storage facilities at Birzebbuga and is questioning why statements on the most likely site are out, when no studies have been made public.

The decision to close the 1919 fuel storage complex and decontaminate and rehabilitate the area is welcomed as it was too close to the residential area and had caused seepage of fuel into the rock and adjoining sea.

However, the organisations demand that the appropriate procedure is undertaken to seek and find the best site for these storage facilities. They asked how Enemalta came to decide that Has-Saptan Valley is the preferred site and what the technical rationale behind this decision is.

The organisations demand that a study be undertaken to short list and evaluate alternative sites for the relocation of the storage facilities and that a detailed environment impact and risk assessment of the preferred site be carried out. Such alternatives should be sought on degraded land.

Has-Saptan Valley is a green area that should be cherished and conserved for the benefit of everyone. Part of the area is a bird sanctuary and consists of woodland with protected trees, such as some 80 carobs, as well as an olive grove with some 200 trees. The olive grove, which was planted 40 years ago, should qualify as a nature reserve by virtue of the Trees and Woodlands Protection Act.

Its retention as a grove is also mentioned in the South Local Plan which is being publicly discussed this week. The plan also recommends scheduling of the site and designates it as an Aquifer Protection Zone.

Has-Saptan Valley should be endorsed by citizens as an optimum site for combined natural and heritage trails as earmarked in the local plan itself, the organisations stressed.

The organisations would like to point out the fact that the Aarhus Convention has been ratified by Malta and, as a result, civil society should be consulted throughout.

Prosit Settecento dak li ppruvajt nghid il-bierah b'din il-post.
M'huwiex tard wisq, irridu nsemghu fil-pubbliku lehilna f'kull okkazjoni li tolqot lil pajjizna.
Inkella x'alternattiva ahna.

Why vivamalta.org was not mentioned?

WE MUST BE A FOCAL PIONT

Cristoforo
9thJune2005, 13:14
This is the worst thing i could have heared! the worst amongs the worsts!
My only burning hope now is blewn off! yes.
Xi hadd qam u prezenta nnifsu cosi all improvviso quddiem il pubbliku!
E forsi ma ghandux l- adherenti li ghandna ahna s issa pero hareg u ppartecipa fic cerimonja statali!!! Il laburisti imxebbajn ser iduru man New Labour. definittivament! u aktar min hekk jekk issa tilghfab il loghba u tohrog titkellem kontra l- emigranti illegali.
We waited for to long konna imissna hrigna bhala movument meta Norman hareg ghall EP! bqajna kif tkellimt qabel qisna setta.Kollox mohbi u xejn fl apert.
Ejja nkunu onesti u nghidu illi ghal 3 problemi issa hemm 4!

Jekk l-MLP2 jikkontesta fuq bazi ta 1) anti-Eu 2) kontra l-immigranti, ngħidlek li jiġbru skoss voti jiena.

DVX_Jo
9thJune2005, 13:20
...
We waited for to long konna imissna hrigna bhala movument meta Norman hareg ghall EP! bqajna kif tkellimt qabel qisna setta.Kollox mohbi u xejn fl apert.
Ejja nkunu onesti u nghidu illi ghal 3 problemi issa hemm 4!


Ahhhhhhh !!!

THIS was the gist of my post :)

Well done 700

Regards

Jo

DVX_Jo
9thJune2005, 13:32
... thats why sant should resign if he loves his party and country



This is the ONLY honourable way for Dr Alfred Sant to leave the Malta Labour Party - THE original one.

Along with him the following two pesons have to follow suite :

Mr Jason Micallef AND Dr Keith Patrick Grech LLD.


Just DO IT people !!

Byeeeeeeeeeeee

Jo

Artist
9thJune2005, 13:39
X'nitnejku ahna min ghandu jitlaq mill-partit laburista.
Aktar ma jkun hemm tahwid bejniethom aktar ahjar.
Fuq kollox kif ghandu l-partit nazzjonalista.
Il-missjoni taghna hija li rridu nkunu movument li jista' jaghmel id-differenza f'dan il-pajjiz.

DVX_Jo
9thJune2005, 13:44
MLP2 will never contest elections.
It is simply a pressure group within MLP1.
The aim is to unsaddle Dr Alf Sant.

This is the umpteenth time this is happening:
but Dr Alf Sant is super-glued to his chair!
You have to give it to him!

...



Caro Norman,

On these two points we do not seem to agree.

On the rest you are RIGHT,

HOWEVER ....

Regarding second stanza :

There are ways and means to "unglue" the Problem.

Keep Well Norman.

Regards

Jo

SetteCento
9thJune2005, 15:05
Jekk l-MLP2 jikkontesta fuq bazi ta 1) anti-Eu 2) kontra l-immigranti, ngħidlek li jiġbru skoss voti jiena.
Definittivament senza alcun dubju!!! VM /IE tistgha tinsa kull vot ta ex Laburist mill lum il quddiem, kull forma ta tidwir fl opinjonijiet ser tkun bis konsolazzjoni.

Quote:DVX_Jo

Ahhhhhhh !!!

THIS was the gist of my post

Well done 700

Regards Jo
Ma nistenna l- ebda well dones minn hadd ma ninsabx ghawn sabiex nilqa il prosets fl opinjonijiet. pero dak illi jien hassejt gejt fi kliemi stess.
dak li il marketing illi VM /IE kellha kien fjakk. fejn hadd ma hareg jitkellem come movument imma fuq binarji individwali. dan ma huwiex solidu.

Nota personali: Dr Anna Mallia hija Mara solida dak li tghid taf xi tkun qeda tfisser. It twaqqif tal movument laburista popolari hija mossa illi Dr Anna Mallia ser taghti hafna sorprizi fil futur qarib,taf kif ser tilghab il karti. Is 7 Gugnio hija data illi hi progettata sabiex timbarka fuq. Hi taf xi jhossu il Maltin u ghalekk hi ser tirkeb il karru tas sentimenti prezenti!
Dr anna Mallia.wahhlitu lill kull hadd. fejn rat illi hadd ma hareg, harget hi.
ser tassorbi l- voti tal ex laburisti dawk li huma imdejqin,
dawk tan nazzjonalisti imxebbajn u dawk il laburisti li biex ibattuha li lejber ivutaw nazzjonalisti u fl ahhar u l aktar importanti issa dawk li huma imxebbajn mit tnejn. Hi ser tkun la voce nuova ghall floating voters.
Dr Anna Mallia taf meta tohrog fl apert! fis 7 Gugnio! sa l- elezzjoni li gejja Dr Anna Mallia ghandha programm illi tabraccia dawk il profesjonisti li telqu ,minn mal lejber u ser johorgu mal movument tagha. Well done Dr Mallia for being so sharp in the right time!

Mazzola75
9thJune2005, 15:20
Definittivament senza alcun dubju!!! VM /IE tistgha tinsa kull vot ta ex Laburist mill lum il quddiem, kull forma ta tidwir fl opinjonijiet ser tkun bis konsolazzjoni.

We cannot let this new socialist party to take the anti-immigration issue for themselves! If MLP2 is actually anti-EU and anti-immigrants, the Maltese people will simply love it. Mark my words! The Maltese dislike the Africans and the Arabs more than the Russians/Germans etc but my impression is that the Maltese generally dislike even the other Europeans. People insulting the brits, the italians, the french (very common), the germans, the russians are found everywhere.

umberto
9thJune2005, 15:23
Is-7 Gunju hija data sinjifikanti ghal hafna kawzi. Mhux l-inqas socjali, nazzjonalisti, self-determination, oppresjonisti, anti-kolonjali, indipendentista u sovranista.

Mossa intelligenti hafna min-nahha ta' mlp2 jinad x'jinad. U almenu irrikonoxxew d-demm ta' dawn l-erba maltin. Is-sena l-ohra kont ftaht thread fuq forum iehor bhala tislima, imma din is-sena nsejtu ukoll. Proset ghalina, kemm nafu nirrikonoxxu il-glidiet ta' missirijietna.

Lanqas farka ta' dik id-determinazjoni u kuragg ta' dawk l-erba u l-feruti ma ghad fadal, aqta xi erba.

Tislima lil mejtin, u lil dawk li kienu l-belt dak in-nhar.

Artist
9thJune2005, 16:13
Mazzola, try to imagine that the anti-immigration problem is solved.
Will our movement cease to exist?
I'dont think so.
Our nation is languishing with problems.
We must organise ourselves better, and go to the arena and fight.
We can make the difference.

SetteCento
10thJune2005, 13:35
The birth of the Popular Labour Movement
Historians deem MLP split unlikely
Herman Grech
http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=189762


Is history repeating itself? In this July 13, 1998 sketch, cartoonist Maurice Tanti Burló commented that Alfred Sant, then Prime Minister, used the Labour Party's general conference to attempt to destroy Dom Mintoff who, at the time, was highly critical of Dr Sant's policies. Will the forthcoming MLP general conference be used to ward off the challenges presented by the emergence of the Popular Labour Movement?


The newly-launched Popular Labour Movement is unlikely to cause a split within the Labour Party though it could cause a few jitters to the opposition, two of Malta's leading historians predict.

Anna Mallia, the only face so far behind the new movement, made the surprise announcement during the Sette Giugno ceremony last Tuesday, as she appealed to all Labour supporters to rally behind the new organisation.

MLP leader Alfred Sant does not appear to be losing much sleep over the new movement, calling it "another political gimmick". MLP general secretary Jason Micallef, however, lashed out at Dr Mallia and said the new organisation was absolutely no cause for concern.

Historian Dominic Fenech, a former general secretary of the Labour Party, does not believe the movement is seeking to create a split within the MLP.

"The way I see it is that the new movement is merely putting pressure on the leadership to change its policies. It's a group of people from the Socialist camp that is disagreeing with the policies as steered by leader Alfred Sant," Prof. Fenech said.

He believes the success of the Popular Labour Movement depends squarely on the way it organises itself and on the resources at its disposal.

"It's not enough to write letters in the media to make an impact and drive your message home. The Campaign for National Independence (Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici's anti-EU membership movement) didn't make any headway by doing that."

It was evident, he said, that Dr Mallia's group was not welcome inside the MLP and could not therefore exert pressure internally.Former Labour Foreign Affairs Minister Alex Sceberras Trigona and ex-Labour MP Maria Camilleri are not considered to be the type of persons to conspire to create a split within the party, Prof. Fenech said.

The two former Labour MPs were sitting besides Dr Mallia during Tuesday's ceremony, though their role within the movement, if any, is unclear.

Prof. Fenech recalled that this was not the first time in recent history that the MLP leadership was at loggerheads with prominent individuals within the party, citing in particular Dr Sant's notorious disagreements with Dom Mintoff and George Abela.

Ultimately, though, political history has shown that supporters rallied behind the main party.

"History shows the MLP and the Nationalist Party survived along the years; people like Herbert Ganado and Toni Pellegrini didn't."

Historian and author Henry Frendo shares Prof. Fenech's line of thought. He said that though the Popular Labour Movement might siphon off some supporters from the MLP, one can never underestimate the strength of the major party.

"When Ganado started with his attacks on (Gorg) Borg Olivier in 1958, Nationalist supporters actually rallied behind their leader, even if Ganado took some votes with him.

What is happening now could actually rally Labour Party supporters around Alfred Sant," Prof. Frendo said.

Prof. Frendo, author of The Origins Of Maltese Statehood, among other publications, however, said it was still too early to gauge the impact of the new movement. The timing of the movement to show its face in public was perfect though - just days after the French and the Dutch rejected the European Constitution.

The movement accused the MLP of being an accomplice to the Nationalist government's decision to ratify the European Constitution which it claimed would breach the Maltese Constitution.

"It's probably primarily a front to Dr Sant's change in EU policy. However one has to bear in mind that Dr Sant has the decision of the party's general conference behind him. Dr Sant has also been trying to de-Mintoffise the Labour Party and that's a difficult thing to do," Prof. Frendo said.

"So far, it's not clear what the movement stands for. It might be another variation of Front Maltin Inqumu and the Campaign for National Independence. And one can never know what happens if Mr Mintoff and Dr Mifsud Bonnici back the movement."

It is not the first time that the MLP faced a split. After the Labour victory in the election of 1947, Mr Mintoff was chosen as Minister of Works and Reconstruction, a post he held until September 1949.

Internal problems over the ultimatum given to the UK regarding Marshall Aid caused a split within the party.

By the end of 1949, Mr Mintoff became the leader of the Malta Labour Party and Paul Boffa launched the Malta Workers' Party.

Twelve years later, Mr Pellegrini left the party to set up the Partit tal-Haddiema Nsara.

The PN also had its fair share of internal disgruntlement, especially when Dr Ganado split from the party to launch the Partit Demokratiku Nazzjonalista. Both Mr Pellegrini and Dr Ganado campaigned against independence.

Former Prime Minister Gorg Borg Olivier faced immense pressure to resign in 1976, right after the PN's electoral defeat and two years after a split vote on the Republic within his party.

Artist
10thJune2005, 13:47
A very good analyses by Dr. Frendo.
We must watch this party's evolution.

umberto
11thJune2005, 20:43
MLP2 will never contest elections.
It is simply a pressure group within MLP1.
The aim is to unsaddle Dr Alf Sant.

Our adversaries are AD:
they are the worst of the lot.
The red herring for the floating voter.


Imperium
0506
Yorkshire Moors

AD on EU Commission's notice regarding treatment of asylum seekers

http://www.alternattiva.org.mt/page.asp?n=newsdetails&i=5152

Cassola the unelected, want to dictate, by a french woman's mouth.

Admin
11thJune2005, 21:09
How pathetic. They are more concerned about their Green reputation than Malta's.:mad:
Exactly! True communists! They don't give a shit about our country. Themselves and their interests before those of the country. Vera HODOR!