Imperial Race

[ogenoct]

IMPERIAL RACE

by Constantin von Hoffmeister


IMPERIVM EVROPA:
The Movement
The Idea
encompassing all
synthesizing the finest
eclectic
non-stagnant
forwards
more importantly: UPWARDS!
National Socialists
National Bolsheviks
National Anarchists
National Capitalists -
National Futurists all!
All philosophies, seemingly divergent,
converge in the name of the AIM:
Save the RACE,
idealize the RACE,
advance the RACE!
Flags many,
the chorus one:
HAIL the Root Race!

[IMPERIUM]

That's more like it!
Hail the root race.
Hail the Sacred Gene Pool.

Imperium
0504

[SetteCento]

Our Respect to our ancient Giants in History......
Our ancestors..........
Our fore fathers .......
Those who erected our temples in honour to the Universe......
They left them to us so we can stay attuned to them......
To rediscover our race
In our Soul,In our Spirit...... that runs through our veins.

[PassionOfTheSerpent]

Are you talking about the Celts?

[ogenoct]

I was reluctant to include "National Capitalists" in the list. I coined the term as a nod to Norman Lowell's vision of "capitalism within a racial context" (as opposed to internationalist/American liberal high finance exploitation). I do not like capitalism one bit. In a socialist society, all the childhood dreams that one has (e.g., becoming an astronaut) could also be realized. If society was a socialist meritocracy, those with high abilities in certain areas would always rise to the top as the state would promote their development. In a capitalist society, rich people are the new aristocracy. Their wealth is hereditary and not necessarily earned by their own accord. This is my main problem with this system.

Constantin

[Marco Polo]

i understand you point constantin but don't you think that most Europeans would like to pass on their 'wealth' to their offspring?

[ogenoct]

don't you think that most Europeans would like to pass on their 'wealth' to their offspring?

You are presupposing a given. In a socialist society, there would be no wealth (stolen, usurped or otherwise "acquired") to pass on.

Constantin

[etoile noir]

You are presupposing a given. In a socialist society, there would be no wealth (stolen, usurped or otherwise "acquired") to pass on.

Constantin

Good morning Constantin

are you still in India? well location states india, so let's assume that you are.
what sort of state would you classify India as being? socialist? capitalist? anarchist .....

correct me if i'm wrong, but last i was there, india struck me as being one of the most capitalist states i ever came across, where the divide between rich and poor is huge. where the haves and the have-nots exist in two totally different worlds, albeit in the same country, and in some instances just beyond the gates of the mansion of the capitalist master.

have you ever tried to practice "socialism" in india? let's leave aside socialism - have you ever tried to give coins to a beggar in the street? i guess in the beginning you did, until you realised that once you give 1 red cent, you are virtually mugged!

you are right in stating that in a socialist society there would be no wealth, of whatever nature. yet you choose to live in a country that not only offers you wealth in abundance, its people view you, "great white man", as a living deity.
personally i find that contradictory, however i would like to hear your views.

[Marco Polo]

i will NOT work for the state! I work for my family and no one else. Most people have a similar attitude.

Let the worker prosper and the bum shrivel and starve to death as he deserves!

I think extreme socialists have a screw loose.

[Freedom]

will NOT work for the state! I work for my family and no one else.

You work for the state and the state works for you and your family.

Let the worker prosper and the bum shrivel and starve to death as he deserves!
Only when there is enough work for the worker. In the modern society, the
'bum' might be a worker without work. So either more jobs or less working time.

[Jean Gove`]

i will NOT work for the state! I work for my family and no one else. Most people have a similar attitude.
Now, pray tell, in your opposition to anarchism, what do you see that is so different between what is an anarchist attitude and this attitude here? I agree with you, of course.

You work for the state and the state works for you and your family.
Strikes me like the problem with the Creator God and Creation. Extra agent is unecessary.

Love your pic/quote, by the way.

[Freedom]

Strikes me like the problem with the Creator God and Creation. Extra agent is unecessary.
This extra agent is necessary for the creation of the anarchist society.
I view the socialist state as the good, withering state.
For me a good state is that which wants to wither away in the hands of the individual.

[Jean Gove`]

This extra agent is necessary for the creation of the anarchist society.
I view the socialist state as the good, withering state.
For me a good state is that which wants to wither away in the hands of the individual.
Why would such a state want to reverse things as they are now then, and strenghten its welfare side? (which is what you imply)

If anything, what needs be done is to cut even more entities off the welfare titties - first and foremost amongst them, corporate welfare. Then we'll have a real free market, more work and less "bums".

[Freedom]

A socialist state is not exclusively welfares. The most important thing is that it gives opportunities to all with regards to employment, education, health care, etc..

When this is done, there simply won't remain individuals requiring to suck the state's titties and the state can wither away evolutionally.

Of course this is from my point of view of how a socialist state should work, empirically a socialist state never produced such results simply because it wanted to keep the people in a collective state and thus was not keen to wither away.

[Jean Gove`]

A socialist state is not exclusively welfares. The most important thing is that it gives opportunities to all with regards to employment, education, health care, etc..
Well, when you say that I work for the state and the state works for me, I understand taxes and welfare - theft and redistribution of stolen goods - the Robin-Hood State. Opportunities to all (granted within natural competence) exist without the state; in many cases it is precisely the state that denies opportunities (for example, through enforcing "equality"). When you say that the state exists to give opportunities, I understand that you believe in an ordering of opportunities which cannot come about naturally, and I call that manipulation.

Of course this is from my point of view of how a socialist state should work, empirically a socialist state never produced such results simply because it wanted to keep the people in a collective state and thus was not keen to wither away.
For the simple reason that power will always try to maintain itself. Justification of power is ultimately just a means to power and power itself an end. Justifying power for the "greater good" seems to me to be the worst of hypocrisies, and ultimately the worst of failures.

[Freedom]

Well, when you say that I work for the state and the state works for me, I understand taxes and welfare - theft and redistribution of stolen goods - the Robin-Hood State.
By socialist state, I also mean a socialist mode of production.
Scandinavian parties are 'socialist', they have large welfares and subsidies, but i do not consider them socialist for the sole reason that the mode of production is in many cases capitalist.

Opportunities to all (granted within natural competence) exist without the state; in many cases it is precisely the state that denies opportunities (for example, through enforcing "equality").
Natural competence is long gone. Modern capitalism is not natural as adam smith, keynes, etc.. would have wanted it but a whole bunch of corporate monopolies which kill off natural competition.

When you say that the state exists to give opportunities, I understand that you believe in an ordering of opportunities which cannot come about naturally, and I call that manipulation.
These opportunities have lacked out unnaturally (by force). I view the good socialist state as that which unnaturally (alas) reverses the unnatural process of capitalism.
However I cannot think of other methods of how unnatural capitalism can be destroyed.

For the simple reason that power will always try to maintain itself. Justification of power is ultimately just a means to power and power itself an end. Justifying power for the "greater good" seems to me to be the worst of hypocrisies, and ultimately the worst of failures.
In this you are right and I'm still to evolve on how the transaction from state to non-state (from above) can be achieved.
However I don't see the 'right' option of the withering of the state.. libertarianism as achievable either.

[Jean Gove`]

By socialist state, I also mean a socialist mode of production. Scandinavian parties are 'socialist', they have large welfares and subsidies, but i do not consider them socialist for the sole reason that the mode of production is in many cases capitalist.
What is a socialist mode of production?

Natural competence is long gone. Modern capitalism is not natural as adam smith, keynes, etc.. would have wanted it but a whole bunch of corporate monopolies which kill off natural competition.
Agreed, and I don't know why this was directed at me since I'm hardly your average hardliner pro-capitalist. International Capitalism is the result of corporate welfare. I'm for the open market, against International Capitalism - an agorist, rather than capitalist, then. When pro-capitalists speak about abolishing regulation and welfare, they generally don't include regulations on small businesses and welfare hand-outs to big corporations. I suffer from a higher level of consistency than them, apparently.

So I am referring to natural competences within an open market.

These opportunities have lacked out unnaturally (by force). I view the good socialist state as that which unnaturally (alas) reverses the unnatural process of capitalism. However I cannot think of other methods of how unnatural capitalism can be destroyed.
In this you are right and I'm still to evolve on how the transaction from state to non-state (from above) can be achieved. However I don't see the 'right' option of the withering of the state.. libertarianism as achievable either.
I don't know... How do you release a man from a straitjacket? Just unbuckle him.

As your pic/quote could be taken to imply, once the people become conscious, in the sense of actualising their consciousness, that the state is not a given, it is not absolute reality, but a false imposition upon them, the state would have become unecessary, an old idol-parasite with nothing left to feed on. Education then is our main weapon and apathy our first enemy.

[Freedom]

What is a socialist mode of production?

I meant means of production prevailed by socialist states..eg. cooperatives, state corporations, etc..

Agreed, and I don't know why this was directed at me since I'm hardly your average hardliner pro-capitalist.

It was not directed to you. I said this to backup my argument.

International Capitalism is the result of corporate welfare. I'm for the open market, against International Capitalism - an agorist, rather than capitalist, then. When pro-capitalists speak about abolishing regulation and welfare, they generally don't include regulations on small businesses and welfare hand-outs to big corporations. I suffer from a higher level of consistency than them, apparently.

So I am referring to natural competences within an open market.

Agreed. My problem is that I can't visualise the means to get there.

don't know... How do you release a man from a straitjacket? Just unbuckle him.

But a man doesn't unbuckle himself in a natural way. Someone else has to unbuckle him. And that's what I refer to as unnatural.

As your pic/quote could be taken to imply, once the people become conscious, in the sense of actualising their consciousness, that the state is not a given, it is not absolute reality, but a false imposition upon them, the state would have become unecessary, an old idol-parasite with nothing left to feed on. Education then is our main weapon and apathy our first enemy.
And what about private corporations independent of the state?
Today we have two enemies which control our consciousness..the state with its superstructure and the capitalist corporatations with its consumeristic hegemony.

[Jean Gove`]

And what about private corporations independent of the state?
Today we have two enemies which control our consciousness..the state with its superstructure and the capitalist corporatations with its consumeristic hegemony.
If we're agreed that bloated corporations float simply due to corporate welfare, the petering out of the state would be their downfall.

Also, if insofar as we're talking about communities a stateless environment would favour the small authentic communities built on human-size, rather than nation-states or other types of bulky communities based on the capitalist mode of production, how could the international conglomerate survive?

[Freedom]

If we're agreed that bloated corporations float simply due to corporate welfare, the petering out of the state would be their downfall.
The modern state and the corporation exist in a mutual symbiosis and therefore yes i agree that destroying the state would destroy the corporation. However how will the large corporations' immense material wealth be distributed? Wouldn't it be dangerous for a free economy to have materially unequal production owners? How will a stateless society prevent newly formed state-independent corporate monopolies if private property remains distributed unequally before and after the fall of the state?

Also, if insofar as we're talking about communities a stateless environment would favour the small authentic communities built on human-size, rather than nation-states or other types of bulky communities based on the capitalist mode of production, how could the international conglomerate survive?

The international conglomerate would not survive IF such communities are formed. But the problem is..How will these stateless communities form with the current international conglomerate?
Which comes first...the chicken or the egg?
Which comes first...the formation of these stateless communities or the destruction of these international conglomerate?
What I can't figure out is the means to the destruction of the state and hence to the formation of small stateless 'gaelic' communities (which are my dream).

It's like the quote in my sig.

Until the have become conscious they will never rebel.
And until they have rebelled they won't become conscious...
I would add 'alas' before the second line...

Which starts which?
Don't you agree that some kind of 'firestarter' or catalyst, hence an unnatural phenomena, is needed?

[ogenoct]

have you ever tried to give coins to a beggar in the street? i guess in the beginning you did, until you realised that once you give 1 red cent, you are virtually mugged!

I still give coins to beggars (but usually only the crippled ones). And why mention India at all? When I talk about socialism, I mean socialism in Europe. Besides, your views on India are skewed. Obviously, you have not been there for long. Your comments make me yawn, even though it is the early evening. For the sake of the race: class warfare!

Constantin

[praefectus]

I was reluctant to include "National Capitalists" in the list. I coined the term as a nod to Norman Lowell's vision of "capitalism within a racial context" (as opposed to internationalist/American liberal high finance exploitation). I do not like capitalism one bit. In a socialist society, all the childhood dreams that one has (e.g., becoming an astronaut) could also be realized. If society was a socialist meritocracy, those with high abilities in certain areas would always rise to the top as the state would promote their development. In a capitalist society, rich people are the new aristocracy. Their wealth is hereditary and not necessarily earned by their own accord. This is my main problem with this system.

Constantin


The difference here, my friend, is between form and actuality ... capitalism is a SYSTEM, not a world view ... the root of material and money was all the same in the USSR, among others, it just tried to force equality ... only in "capitalist" American has a PRIVATE citizen first flown into space .... the system allows the superman to flourish should he choose to do so -- "socialism" as popularly used in Europe just means less work, must vacations ... nothing really productive ... in this essence, the "work or die" of capitalism at least moves men to be men ...

As for "childhood dreams" this is folly, as not everybody can become an astronaut (not too many people dream of cleaning sewers, but it must be done) ... a "meritocracy" generally exists now in the USA in regards to certain fields -- how many ghetto negros do you see in Space? It isn't because the government doesn't want them there ....

Hugs...

[ogenoct]

the root of material and money was all the same in the USSR, among others, it just tried to force equality ... only in "capitalist" American has a PRIVATE citizen first flown into space .... the system allows the superman to flourish should he choose to do so -- "socialism" as popularly used in Europe just means less work, must vacations ... nothing really productive ... in this essence, the "work or die" of capitalism at least moves men to be men ...

You obviously have only grasped the hogwash propaganda (disseminated by senile master-masturbators in "top" positions) of what socialism is supposed to be, without the slightest regard of what socialism really stands for. How, and please give reasons, did the USSR try "to force equality"? How has a "PRIVATE" (why capitalized?) citizen flown into space in the US if this same "PRIVATE" (Haha! What a joke!) citizen needed the financial backing of about a dozen corporations? The (capitalist) "system" (aha, so there is a design behind it!) only "allows" "supermen" to flourish if they have enough cash to do so, and not even then is it possible to go all the way without the necessary approval by a system that only awards the "self-made" rich (meaning, born into money or having thieved it together through corrupt means), without judging the character or talents of the "rich" individuals. "Work or die" might sound mighty fine to you, but what if there is not any work to be had (as is the case in many areas of Europe right now, in case you have not noticed). If you love capitalism so much, why aren't you a "man" and go back to capitalism's whore-mother (the US) and drink your "big gulp" there?

Love,
Constantin

[praefectus]

You obviously have only grasped the hogwash propaganda (disseminated by senile master-masturbators in "top" positions) of what socialism is supposed to be, without the slightest regard of what socialism really stands for. How, and please give reasons, did the USSR try "to force equality"? How has a "PRIVATE" (why capitalized?) citizen flown into space in the US if this same "PRIVATE" (Haha! What a joke!) citizen needed the financial backing of about a dozen corporations? The (capitalist) "system" (aha, so there is a design behind it!) only "allows" "supermen" to flourish if they have enough cash to do so, and not even then is it possible to go all the way without the necessary approval by a system that only awards the "self-made" rich (meaning, born into money or having thieved it together through corrupt means), without judging the character or talents of the "rich" individuals. "Work or die" might sound mighty fine to you, but what if there is not any work to be had (as is the case in many areas of Europe right now, in case you have not noticed). If you love capitalism so much, why aren't you a "man" and go back to capitalism's whore-mother (the US) and drink your "big gulp" there?

Love,
Constantin

Why are you so obsessed with American Captialism (like that doesn't exist in Europe) when it was born and bred first in Industrial Britian under the guise of Smith and Mill among others? Europe gave it birth, not the US ...

Second, no corporations funded Burt Rutan's flight into space -- Rutan was already a SELF-MADE millionare because of his engineering feats (See, he EARNED his money) ... he was backed by Paul Allen (Billionare), because Allen is a space junkie (more like Star Trek junkie, but I disgress) ... and they won the X-Prize, which was funded by other millionares who love space -- where do you get this "corpations' stuff from?

And I don't care what Socialism is supposed to mean -- from a reality (where I live) point of view, it hasn't worked for crap -- maybe in fairy la-la land utopia it works ... but come on, you have to live in reality sometimes, don't you?

As for unemployment, it's because people generally aren't consuming -- being that most of the West is a service, NOT INDUSTRAL, economy, there is nothing to create ... getting 6 weeks of vacation seems to be all your "socialism" can do ... ;-) If they were men, they'd make their OWN work -- why be dependant upon somebody else for work? If you are, fine, but don't cry when you don't have a job ... sounds Darwinian to me ...

I should also add that because people are taxed so much, they can't buy anything else ... and so, growth slows up, and the government then tries to give more benefits and hire more people to "lower employement" by doing what? Raising taxes ... boo-hoo-hoo ... it's the weak who can't stop this circle...

:-)

[ogenoct]

Why are you so obsessed with American Captialism

You have to make up your mind: Are you European or AmeriKan? If you choose the latter, you are a traitor to EVROPA and should be treated as such. Europe is lost because of people like you. You well know that corporations rule AmeriKa. You also know (if you are not a complete idiot) that these same corporations outsource their labor to Third World countries, thus depriving White AmeriKans of jobs. This obviously does not seem to bother you. This is why my stance holds: AmeriKans CANNOT be Europeans (unless they submit to Ancient European principles of work share). Your disgusting (Mickey Mouse jargon) "big gulp" and "Big Mac" talk simply proves that some AmeriKans, no matter how long they have been residing in HOLY EVROPA, do not realize that Europeans have evolved differently than their racially related cousins overseas. The only good European today is the one that denounces and/or hates and/or despises AmeriKa! The US, after all, is the prime producer of multicultural strife and ethno-centric warfare, all paid for and bought by "Aryan"-owned companies (NOT Jewish!). Therefore, any "European"-AmeriKan who is still proud to belong to such an evil JEWISH/CAPITALIST (NOT Jewish!) regime needs to be denounced for the racial traitor that he is. Only if AmeriKa dies, can EVROPA live! Americans who, under the guise of wannabe "Nationalist" organizations (like the arch-reactionary NATIONAL ALLIANCE, which is in the process of total collapse at the moment - thank the Gods!), work for patriotic European organizations should be screened for their allegiance. DEATH to AmeriKa! HAIL Evropa!

Constantin

[Florian Geyer]

Interesting debate you two.I think Praefectus makes a lot of sense in his point of view.On the other hand Ogenoct is correct, in my opinion when he says that :-

" The US, after all, is the prime producer of multicultural strife and ethno-centric warfare,"


" such an evil JEWISH regime".

Wouldn't it be good if you two could strike a winning formula for IE.You both make sense.:cool:

[etoile noir]

I still give coins to beggars (but usually only the crippled ones). And why mention India at all? When I talk about socialism, I mean socialism in Europe. Besides, your views on India are skewed. Obviously, you have not been there for long. Your comments make me yawn, even though it is the early evening. For the sake of the race: class warfare!

Constantin

you still dont get it do you? sweetest ogenoct, the only reason i replied to your Imperial Race / Socialism "thing" is because its your Birthday :)

in case you havent noticed, unless i comment on your threads, and contradict you, they go unnoticed. so boring as i am, boring is as boring does ;)

Happy Birthday Constantin. Hope you had a lovely day and wishing you many more wonderful birthdays - at least as many as i've celebrated :D

Always .... EN

[Florian Geyer]

"Your comments make me yawn, even though it is the early evening."[quote ogenoct]

EN...I think he's gone to bed.19thApril and 20th April, he might have a double bash.:D

[ogenoct]

in case you havent noticed, unless i comment on your threads, and contradict you, they go unnoticed.

That is a preposterous and false statement. My threads are noticed without your help. Do not overestimate your influence, my dear!

Happy Birthday Constantin. Hope you had a lovely day and wishing you many more wonderful birthdays - at least as many as i've celebrated :D

Thank you very much. Your well wishes make me feel warm and fuzzy inside. :p

Kind Regards,
Constantin

[praefectus]

(Disclaimer for VM readers: Ogenoct and I are practically best friends, but we generally go at each other's throats -- so, don't take it personal if he attacks me or I attack him -- you must understand that he LOVES to stir the hornets nest, and the more fickle you are, the more likely he's going to get you going ... having said that ... ;-))

You have to make up your mind: Are you European or AmeriKan? .

*** Are you talking Racially or Culturally? I'd say I'm both.

If you choose the latter, you are a traitor to EVROPA and should be treated as such. Europe is lost because of people like you.

**** Please expand on this comment.

You well know that corporations rule AmeriKa.

**** And they don't in your beloved Germany, UK, and France? Gimme a break ....

You also know (if you are not a complete idiot) that these same corporations outsource their labor to Third World countries, thus depriving White AmeriKans of jobs.

**** Yes, true, but this has also moved Amerika from a industrial based country a service orienated one ... where the standard of living is generally the highest on the planet (do NOT confuse this with "Quality of Life," which I think some other countries are leading in ....).

This obviously does not seem to bother you. This is why my stance holds: AmeriKans CANNOT be Europeans (unless they submit to Ancient European principles of work share).

**** What does this mean? Lording over a town, lus primae noctis, that kind of sharing? Count me in!

Your disgusting (Mickey Mouse jargon) "big gulp" and "Big Mac" talk simply proves that some AmeriKans, no matter how long they have been residing in HOLY EVROPA, do not realize that Europeans have evolved differently than their racially related cousins overseas.

Evolved differently? Come on, you're the Kebab King! At least my Big Gulps are self-served!

The only good European today is the one that denounces and/or hates and/or despises AmeriKa! The US, after all, is the prime producer of multicultural strife and ethno-centric warfare, all paid for and bought by "Aryan"-owned companies (NOT Jewish!).

***** MTV is the prime producer of Multi-Cult, and as THEY (filthy Juden) control it), the coporations just adjust to seize market opportunity ... just as these same corporations were happy to market to racists from the South in the good old days. The main problem, is you're judging America post 1965 ... which is fine, since it's the same crap today -- but, let's judge Germany (Pedophilia and Scheisse films) .. hardly the torch barers of Goethe and Schiller, among others.... bah!@ Also funny coming from somebody whose favorite poet is E.G. Poe, sucka! :-)

Therefore, any "European"-AmeriKan who is still proud to belong to such an evil JEWISH/CAPITALIST (NOT Jewish!) regime needs to be denounced for the racial traitor that he is. Only if AmeriKa dies, can EVROPA live!

This is partially true, this is why I'm an EU freak, while most other "European Nationalist" hate the EU ... the EU is Europe's only hope ;-)

Americans who, under the guise of wannabe "Nationalist" organizations (like the arch-reactionary NATIONAL ALLIANCE, which is in the process of total collapse at the moment - thank the Gods!), work for patriotic European organizations should be screened for their allegiance. DEATH to AmeriKa! HAIL Evropa!

Where can I submit my blood sample? The NA isn't a nationalist, but racialist organization ... but, I digress ... my only allegiance is to Europa ...

Bigger Hugs Back!

D.

[etoile noir]

disclaimer happily accepted ;) in fact we're all enjoying the show. go ahead you two, make our day.

[Florian Geyer]

disclaimer happily accepted ;) in fact we're all enjoying the show. go ahead you two, make our day.

I find them both quite interesting when they get going.Serious debate with amusement, sadly lacking in Malta.Europeans debating, nice.

[Freedom]

May I be presumptious?

And they don't in your beloved Germany, UK, and France? Gimme a break ....
The same corporations which rule the U$ rule Europe. The difference is that the U$ wants these corporations to rule.

Yes, true, but this has also moved Amerika from a industrial based country a service orienated one ... where the standard of living is generally the highest on the planet (do NOT confuse this with "Quality of Life," which I think some other countries are leading in ....).
Yeah and who cares of the unemployed white men? The standard of living is highest for those bastards anglo-judeo capitalists.
You're a traitor of the aryan race. :-)

What does this mean? Lording over a town, lus primae noctis, that kind of sharing? Count me in!
Ancient European principles of work which exclude materialism, exploitation and task allocation, favored by americka the fucka.

Evolved differently? Come on, you're the Kebab King! At least my Big Gulps are self-served!
Yes, at least europeans know their govt are wrong unlike the americans who patronize their nation-state.

MTV is the prime producer of Multi-Cult, and as THEY (filthy Juden) control it), the coporations just adjust to seize market opportunity ... just as these same corporations were happy to market to racists from the South in the good old days.
The ancient european values do not prosititute themselves for markets opportunities unlike the american ones.

[etoile noir]

I find them both quite interesting when they get going.Serious debate with amusement, sadly lacking in Malta.Europeans debating, nice.

indeed :) their exchanges are highly amusing yet informative and based on facts.

however i find them a pure case of the pot calling the kettle black - but dont ask me who plays the pot and who plays the kettle ;)

[ogenoct]

*** Are you talking Racially or Culturally? I'd say I'm both.

You have to choose sides. AmeriKa is NOT European, at least not anymore. Neither in outlook nor in spirit will it ever attain its pioneer glory again.

**** Yes, true, but this has also moved Amerika from a industrial based country a service orienated one ... where the standard of living is generally the highest on the planet (do NOT confuse this with "Quality of Life," which I think some other countries are leading in ....).

This is not true. The infant mortality rate is three times higher in the US (capitalist system) than in Cuba (socialist system). Also, everybody in Cuba has access to free health care while in the US a large percentage of the population does not. If you do not have insurance in the US, and you get cancer you die if you do not have the necessary cash to pay for the treatment. Also, nowhere in Europe does one encounter trailer parks. Contrary to Europe, the US is on par with the Third World in certain cities (and towns. especially the ones that are infected with negro animals). The disparity between the filthy (and mostly undeserved) rich and the extremely (and mostly involuntarily) poor is by far the highest in the US when compared to other Western countries.

***** MTV is the prime producer of Multi-Cult, and as THEY (filthy Juden) control it), the coporations just adjust to seize market opportunity ... just as these same corporations were happy to market to racists from the South in the good old days. The main problem, is you're judging America post 1965 ... which is fine, since it's the same crap today -- but, let's judge Germany (Pedophilia and Scheisse films) .. hardly the torch barers of Goethe and Schiller, among others.... bah!@ Also funny coming from somebody whose favorite poet is E.G. Poe, sucka! :-)

E. A. Poe is part of Secret AmeriKa, not the contemporary cesspool of depravity and silliness. AmeriKa produces by far more "Pedophilia and Scheisse films" than Germany. I am judging AmeriKa post-1865. After the Confederacy was dismantled, the only high civilization that North America ever produced perished. Folk Socialism, as an economic system, cares about the people that chose the system. Capitalism does not care about the people that chose it nor does it care if these people survive. You are right when you point out that corporations (which are mostly managed by Gentiles) are opportunist in that they sell anything to anybody as long as a quick buck can be made. Why is that a good thing? Please remind me. How does our race benefit from outsourcing and international corporations that are actively destroying our kin's identity and pride? All capitalists are race traitors.

the EU is Europe's only hope ;-)

I agree (if the EU would be based on solid racial and socialist principles).

Love,
Constantin